Alpha t2 or lean xtreme
- 03-08-2011, 10:04 PM
- 03-08-2011, 10:07 PM
- 03-08-2011, 10:12 PM
I was leaning towards Alpha-T2 but than I read somewhere that when you are dieting cortisole can increase so thats when I was looking into lx. Also I just picked up guggulsterones which I have read stimulates the thyroid which is what t2 does correct?
03-09-2011, 11:26 AM
If you're concerned about cortisol, go with the Alpha-T2/Erase stack.
You don't have to be ridiculous with your diet either in restricting calories, and you'd actually get BETTER results from CYCLING your calories (lots of information out there about it - look it up) than from constantly being below Maintenance!
Josh will have to answer that.
03-12-2011, 12:13 PM
I haven't tried Alpha T2, but I have used OEP with Lean Extreme. Its the most ripped I've been. The fat came off very quickly. I've used OEP by itself but the effects were no where near as pronounced.
03-12-2011, 12:29 PM
I highly recommend the alpha t2/erase/titanium stack. I have been on that now for just about 2 weeks. weight hasn't dropped by much but I am def noticing a lot more definition in my problem target areas (spare tire)
03-13-2011, 11:10 PM
Erase reduces both cortisol and estrogen, High levels of these hormones promotes fat GAIN.
Dose 1 (first thing upon waking on an empty stomach) - 1 cap Alpha-T2 + 2 caps OxyElite Pro +
1 cap Erase
Dose 2 (6-8 hours post-Dose 1) - 2 caps Alpha-T2 + 1 cap Erase + 1 cap OxyElite Pro
Dose 3 (15-60 min pre-bed) - 1 cap Erase (with or without food)
Do not eat for at least 30 minutes after doses 1 and 2.
Do not exceed 4 capsules of Alpha-T2, 4 capsules of OxyElite Pro in 24 hours, or 4 capsules of
Erase in any 24-hour period.
03-13-2011, 11:14 PM
03-14-2011, 02:22 AM
Id like to give OEP, At-2, Shift, and Erase a shot
03-15-2011, 12:05 PM
Hey just a few questions, this stack looks promising as hell BUT, is it an AI? Which ones are stimulant based? and It's non hormonal correct? But whats with the 21+ warning for the product??
03-15-2011, 01:39 PM
03-16-2011, 07:29 PM
Alpha-T2 has stimulants by chemical nature, but they do not elicit strong negative stimulant effects like say, 200mg caffeine
05-01-2011, 06:55 PM
Alpha t2 and oxyelite stack should do it. I was avg. 1.5-2lbs a week fatloss with no impact on strength. Ran it short 6 weeks dropped 14 lbs. Great stuff, as a matter of fact I stocked up on 4 bottles of shift as well for future cutting cycles.
05-01-2011, 07:00 PM
I'm using both Lean xtreme and Alpha T-2 right now in an intermittent fasting diet and it has been very successful so far.
Recoverbro Elite"This is what we've been working on"
05-05-2011, 08:27 PM
I am running Alpha T2 and LX right now, 8lbs in just over 4 weeks... no loss in strength...
05-05-2011, 09:39 PM
05-12-2011, 02:09 PM
05-12-2011, 04:46 PM
Alpha-T2 is fine for women to use. Erase I wouldn't recommend unless she was a very experienced trainee and was aware of what such a product could potentially do to her body. OEP usage would be dependent on whether or not one is sensitive to stimulants.
HOWEVER, if the woman mentioned is a beginner to training or has just started out, forget about looking at any supplements aside from the basic staples, and concentrate on getting her NUTRITION AND TRAINING sorted out for fat loss for her, since those are the two factors - NUTRITION ESPECIALLY - that will determine her success (or lack of it) with her fat loss.
I recommend that she reads The 3 Keys to Fat Loss for comprehensive advice and information on nutrition, supplementation (only the basics required), and training for effective and successful fat loss, and then applies those principles to herself.
If she's a beginner, the best investment she can make IMO is to get a trainer who knows what they're doing, who will individualize a nutrition plan and training programme specific for her goals and needs.
05-14-2011, 08:16 PM
I'm doing Alpha T-2, Erase, and Shift stack. I'm leaning out quite nicely. I still can't loose water from lower abs. What do you guys recommend ?
05-19-2011, 12:05 PM
PES reps, please chime in!!!
05-19-2011, 12:46 PM
How long have you been on the stack?
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05-19-2011, 02:07 PM
If it's water, then make sure that you are drinking ENOUGH water - not drinking enough will cause water retention. Also watch your sodium intake. If you have high carbohydrates, this could potentially cause water retention, since for every gram of carbohydrates, your body holds three grams of water - that's not to say go low carbohydrates, though, since if you're drinking enough with a high carbohydrate intake, from my experience, you can eliminate water retention.
It could also be something else, so check you nutrition and training and any other factors such as stress that can contribute to lack of fat loss.
If it's just water and you have everything re nutrition and training optimized for fat loss, then maybe consider using a diuretic product for a few days (generally ~3 days of usage, and no more than ~5 days, depending on the product), to get rid of the last of it. Note that if you do this, the water comes back after a few days of stopping usage of the diuretic, since it is only a temporary solution, generally only used to get your physique into "peak" condition for a single day.
05-19-2011, 02:32 PM
I normally attribute a high umbilical (belly button region) skinfold in relation to your other skin folds as a combination of poor carb tolerance and cortisol problems. When i drop carbs i typically lose a substantial amount of lower stomach fat, even if i keep calories at a constant.
The cortisol mitigating properties of Erase in addition to a lower carb approach should be the ticket to losing your umbilical fat.
05-19-2011, 05:22 PM
Thanks for the feedback. Im in my third week of Alhpa, Erase, and Shift stack. Rosie you are right, its last bit of fat around belly. Yes I am following low carb approch (carbs for breakfast, pre, and post also dextrose intra workout with BCAA for insulin spike). I try to have a gallon plus water every day. I guess I have to be little more patient to see bottom abs. Hopefully in four weeks with 5 cardio session and low carbs, I will get there. Thanks!!!
05-19-2011, 06:20 PM
05-19-2011, 08:19 PM
In the end, Steeladdict, you have to figure out what your body responds to BEST re fat loss and use that approach.
05-19-2011, 09:20 PM
If the OP makes the progress and results hes after with his chosen dietary program, then thats excellent. Its just my opinion that if someone has a goal of being shredded, eating that many carbs will possibly pose a problem.
05-24-2011, 09:15 AM
05-24-2011, 12:01 PM
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