Perfect diet/Cannot get rid of love handles
- 12-22-2010, 02:18 AM
I am not sure what the heck is going on. I have been hitting up the gym and eating a good diet. I have actually put on weight. . My weight is over 170 now. I do not think it is fat though. Not sure how that would happen with all of the stacks I have been taking..the Green Tea, Alcar, Hydroxycut, CLA, along with the Dermatherm Target on my abs.
If I put on fat, then there are some serious health issues I need to get fixed.
I am trying to set up an appointment to get an accurate BMI so I know exactly where I am at. I definitely do not see "a lot" of extra fat on my body..not more than 20-25 pounds-all in the midsection. No fat on my legs, etc.
I am 5'9, and my waist is 32. I don't see how I could have a lot of fat if all of the fat I have is on my midsection.
- 12-22-2010, 05:48 AM
I have a lot I would like to say, but I hate typing on my phone, so I'm only going to say a couple things. Low fast diets (such as what you have been following) significantly LOWER testosterone. Low calorie diets do, as well. High fat diets have been shown to significantly raise testosterone. Also, of all the different types of fat, saturated fats raise testosterone the most! Eat red meat, and eggs, and plenty of them. Don't be afraid to eat them!
- 12-22-2010, 05:52 AM
Hell, with that low calorie, low fat, high fiber diet you're on, I'd be surprised if you didn't have any trouble getting aroused!
12-22-2010, 06:02 AM
Get off the deit bro, bump the calories back up to maintenance for a couple weeks, then slowly start to reduce again.
Try HIT on rowing machine - so underated, and will help further define your upper body.
12-22-2010, 02:02 PM
I added 2% milk to my protein shakes, and I am eating toast with peanut butter. I also have had eggs twice in the past two days. I feel that I am getting stronger. I was able to lift weight longer and more of it last night when I hit the gym. I have been taking the Testopro.
12-22-2010, 02:16 PM
Right on man! Check out a book called the anabolic solution for bodybuilders. Keep us posted! Mmmm... I'm getting ready to eat half a dozen eggs myself!
12-22-2010, 02:31 PM
12-22-2010, 04:12 PM
12-22-2010, 04:20 PM
IF you were even just 15%, there would be some more definition on your body.
12-22-2010, 04:43 PM
A lot of good advice here. I had a similar problem. I would starve myself of carbs and run 13 miles at a time trying to keep my stomach tone but I could never really get the love handles off completely.
Obviously I realized this wasn't working and had to try something different. I started trying to tone up my midsection and lower back. I concentrated on deadlifts, squats and clean and press. Another good move is doing weighted side crunches on the roman chair. Tone up in those areas and the fat will start to come off. (A good thermogenic can't hurt either.)
I have had a lot of success since I changed things up. I am about 15 pounds heavier with the same waste size and I can eat carbs again.
12-22-2010, 04:46 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot to add I still have love handles.
12-23-2010, 01:19 AM
If my body was 20% fat, that would mean I would have 34 pounds to lose.
I just don't see 34 pounds of fat. As I have said previously, my diet has always been exceptional in terms of fat/calories, and I have always worked out. I actually was on an ultra low fat diet for most of my life..which means low calories because I don't eat sugars or starches either. There is simply no way for me to stockpile 34 pounds of fat on my body with my diet/exercise. I am willing to bet my body fat is around 15%. We will see this week or next when I have the pod test.
12-23-2010, 01:23 AM
I have been doing that twice a week. Also, when I am at the gym, I have been doing the weighted curl machine..descending sets starting at 115 and down to 65...I have also been doing leg lifts there..and I have been using the pulley machines to work my obliques..I do a movement I saw online..sort of like a baseball swing where I hold my arms straight and keep my legs set and can only "pull" with a twist of my midsection..sort of like swinging a baseball bat.
12-23-2010, 07:31 AM
I'm not saying any of this for any reason other than if you don't come to realize that these things are true you are stuck with the same lack of progress you've had.
12-23-2010, 07:45 AM
I'm not saying any of this for any reason other than if you don't come to realize that these things are true you are stuck with the same lack of progress you've had.[/QUOTE]
and well said Eric!
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12-23-2010, 12:32 PM
I've experimented with all types of diets imaginable, and at one point was on a VERY low fat, low calorie, low carb diet, such as yourself. I felt accomplished just by how strict I was on the diet, believing I had an excellent diet... I lost a ton of weight, mostly bone and muscle lol. I never could get rid of all the fat, although there wasn't a lot. My skin, and hair dried out, I felt weak, I injured my lower back, I had trouble sleeping, and severely lowered my libido. It want until I states having these health problems, and became willing to forget EVERYTHING I thought I knew, and go against what is thought to be a healthy diet (i.e. Low fat), that I regained my health back. If you really want help, listen to what everyone here has been trying to tell you.
12-23-2010, 01:08 PM
12-23-2010, 05:00 PM
12-24-2010, 06:21 AM
Your diet is not perfect. The lactose from the dairy you consume is making you fat along with the gluten in the wheat products you consume like special k.
Cut out the dairy and the gluten and you will lose weight, guaranteed.
12-24-2010, 08:24 AM
Milk spikes insulin quite high, which does cause fast gains in sedentary people. But if the goal is to first put on muscle, and then burn off the fat, elevated insulin levels are a good thing. That's why bulk up routines like the old "milk and squats" routine work so well.
12-24-2010, 08:30 AM
12-24-2010, 08:42 AM
12-24-2010, 08:45 AM
I switched to a true vegan diet for 2 months, cut out all dairy and gluten. Along with meat too. Was getting my protein from plant based sources like nuts and kale. I shed 20 pounds and most of it was fat.
12-24-2010, 08:52 AM
12-24-2010, 08:55 AM
12-24-2010, 09:11 AM
Neither dairy, gluten, nor meat, by themselves, make people fat. In fact you could go on a 100% whole milk diet @ 1 liter per day (approx 600 kcal) and would lose a lot of weight. In fact you might even starve to death on it. Now if you drank 10 liters per day (6000 kcal) then yeah, most people would put on a lot of fat.
I apologize for getting cranky in my old age, but it slays me that with the length of time that this board has been up and its collective knowledge people still post crap like 'cut out food X and you will lose those love handles.'
You lost those 20 pounds because your particular vegan diet gave you a sustained energy deficit not because you chose to eat nuts and kale.
12-24-2010, 09:19 AM
To be fair, I have a lot of clients who lose weight substituting gluten containing grains for those that are gluten free.
Removing a cortisol reaction from a food someone is sensitive to is going to help body composition even if calories are the same.
Naturally it won't work with everyone for obvious reasons.
12-24-2010, 09:20 AM
I'm not arguing with you on that point.
However, the original poster complained that despite him maintaining a calorie deficit as evidenced by his low calorie diet plus working out....he could not lose his love handles. He thought he was following "a perfect diet".
I had to chime in and correct him. Dairy and Gluten are known to bloat people.
Most people on Earth are actually lactose intolerant. Lactose has a bloating effect on many various genetics and blood types. Google it, don't take my word for it. The only argument against lactose you could make is you are one of the few that has genetics that are accustomed to it...(Mainly European). Human beings are mammals and they are indeed supposed to drink milk...but only in youth stages. As we get older our ability to process dairy diminishes. That's why drinking milk when you are an old man actually causes osteoporosis.
On the subject of Gluten there is absolutely ZERO ARGUMENT supporting it is healthy for you. There is nothing good about Gluten and all it does is make you fat. Google it, don't take my word for it.
12-24-2010, 09:30 AM
For example, people with hypothyroid will have a real challenge trying to lose body fat. However, they will also have other symptoms to go along with it that should raise flags that it is not simply a dietary issue.
In the absence of other suspicious symptoms, IMO it is appropriate to start with diet fundamentals of 'how much you eat is as, if not more, important as what you eat.'
12-24-2010, 09:54 AM
Several people also suggested that the OP might be eating too few calories which is putting him in 'starvation mode' and making his body hold onto fat. While this does happen, weight loss will continue as long as there is still a deficit (this is just physics - the energy has to come from somewhere) but this will come with symptoms of fatigue and significant strength loss. However the OP mentions nothing of this; in fact he says that he feels fairly strong.
So... if he is not feeling weak and tired, and is not losing weight on the scale, and does not have any biological medical conditions, then he is not in an overall energy deficit.
12-24-2010, 10:06 AM
Calories do matter the most.
However, quality of calories cannot be overlooked either. High Glycemic Index Foods or Foods that fatten the human body such as Gluten and Dairy play important roles in weight gain and loss too.
The overall goal is to lose weight. First thing you do is try to reduce calories, after that you must improve the quality of your calories.
For example, you can eat a 100 calorie candy bar or choose a 100 calorie apple. If you were only counting calories then they'd both be of the same value. However, the candy bar has dairy, refined sugar, has a bunch of chemicals, and has a High Glycemix Index Value. (High Glycemic Foods turn into fat very fast and don't give your body enough time to burn off)
The Apple is simply not the same as a candy bar even if they are the same calories. Why? The Apple has a lot of fiber and fiber calories don't even count as they get pooped out. The Apple also has some vitamins and minerals that aid the body in overall living healthy. Not to mention the Apple is low glycemic so your body won't turn it into fat, it will burn it off.
Anyone who is truly serious about losing weight will cut out dairy and gluten from their diet completely. It's a smarter and more efficient way of going about things.
12-24-2010, 10:31 AM
12-24-2010, 10:41 AM
12-24-2010, 11:07 AM
right and I don't think the original poster's diet consists solely of snickers either. Saying dropping junk food will help is a crock of shet if you don't change total calories too.
12-25-2010, 02:54 AM
12-27-2010, 06:02 AM
I am sleep deprived right now and therefore maybe i was just reading this post wrong but it seemed to be lacking very common knowledge in the nutrition world. Maybe i'm wrong but i'm sure to be corrected if I am.
12-27-2010, 07:05 AM
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Love Handles Exercises for Men to Get Rid of Fat
• Jumping Jacks
• Push ups
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• Eat five balanced meals
• Drink enough water
• Always eat breakfast
• Have an early dinner
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• Cashew nuts
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