NEED HELP W/ CLENBUTEROL!!!!

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  1. You will feel if its real, otherwise get a better source.

    200mcg is a normal dose, thats what the old superclen was. Just split it 3 times during the day.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by LowDog View Post
    You will feel if its real, otherwise get a better source.

    200mcg is a normal dose, thats what the old superclen was. Just split it 3 times during the day.
    I wouldn't see the point of this. The clen stays in the body so long.
    Just inject.
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  3. well i'm on my 2 week off stage which started this past tues...My girl and me both can tell i have hardened up...still not where i want to be in the mid section buy MUCH improved, so i can't wait till my 2nd 2 week cycle to start!!! Do you guys report feeling any lethargy while using clen??? i did at higher doses but think it may have been because i took it while using Superdrone at 20 mg for the same 2 weeks..Do you guys think that is why??

  4. Quote Originally Posted by wolfe14 View Post
    We today I took 140mcg of clen but by mid day I felt run down and tired so i took 1 OEP and was fine...I have always had a VERY high tolerance to stims...But again the lethary Im feeling could be related to the SD, tomorrow is last day of SD so we'll see how things feel after that...Thanks again for all of your replies..
    Rounding out my 3rd week of Superdrol, and the lethargy is so apparent I literally fell asleep while sitting up at work in FRONT of my direct supervisor.

    Regarding the Clen taken concomitantly with other OTC stimulant based lipolytic aids, I am always hesitant to advise multiple compounds - especially when heart rate is taken into account - because of the pervasive 'more is better' ideology that runs rampant throughout the bodybuilding culture. In all honesty, it comes down to several factors, and there is no rubber stamp universal prescription for dosages I would suggest; because you have to remain diligent on staying aware of your heart rate and body temperature.

    Once your heart rate begins to normalize after a few weeks of C-HCL usage, and your temperature starts to level - you are faced with a few options, none of which I believe would be the most sensible in my opinion, because advanced (anticipatory) counter measures should have been implemented from Day-1 (regarding beta-2 receptor (andregenic) regulation) including Ketotifen (and to a lesser extent, due to its lack of substantiated clinical validity, Benadryl) administration.

    Something that would bode well when taken in concert with C-HCL would be a thyroidal chemical or OTC supplement such as Cytomel or AlphaT2 (which I will be logging as a part of my summer protocol leading up to the Mr. Olympia weekend as soon as it arrives in the mail) because they do not directly stimulate your CNS.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    Rounding out my 3rd week of Superdrol, and the lethargy is so apparent I literally fell asleep while sitting up at work in FRONT of my direct supervisor.

    Regarding the Clen taken concomitantly with other OTC stimulant based lipolytic aids, I am always hesitant to advise multiple compounds - especially when heart rate is taken into account - because of the pervasive 'more is better' ideology that runs rampant throughout the bodybuilding culture. In all honesty, it comes down to several factors, and there is no rubber stamp universal prescription for dosages I would suggest; because you have to remain diligent on staying aware of your heart rate and body temperature.

    Once your heart rate begins to normalize after a few weeks of C-HCL usage, and your temperature starts to level - you are faced with a few options, none of which I believe would be the most sensible in my opinion, because advanced (anticipatory) counter measures should have been implemented from Day-1 (regarding beta-2 receptor (andregenic) regulation) including Ketotifen (and to a lesser extent, due to its lack of substantiated clinical validity, Benadryl) administration.

    Something that would bode well when taken in concert with C-HCL would be a thyroidal chemical or OTC supplement such as Cytomel or AlphaT2 (which I will be logging as a part of my summer protocol leading up to the Mr. Olympia weekend as soon as it arrives in the mail) because they do not directly stimulate your CNS.
    WoW brother...Give me a few minutes for my brain to catch up and I'll comprehend..lol..Thanks for your reply..I did use benadryl at 50mgs a night for the 2 weeks.. This alphaT2 can I buy this from NP or is this something pharmacutical that i will need to google? Also how will this aid me taken with clen? Last, should I wait 2 weeks off before starting back with the Clen and is the last 2 weeks more pronounced results wise than the first?? Sorry for all the questions but as you can probably tell this is my first cycle.. Also do you feel worn out on Clen or are you energized and have that feel good euphoric feel?? I felt worn out but think it was do to SD..

    Thanks again bro!!
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    use benedryl evernight 50mg with ur clen raise ti everyday until max of 200, if nothing changes in a week then its bunk
    Dude 200mcg. I think that's way too much. You might go into cardiac arrest.

  7. everyone is diff. i felt nice at 200-220. some can't go higher than 40. its not like hydroxycut loll. every one is diff
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    everyone is diff. i felt nice at 200-220. some can't go higher than 40. its not like hydroxycut loll. every one is diff
    Currently at 180mcg myself.
    Just inject.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Currently at 180mcg myself.
    what do your cycles look like??? do you all exceed the 2 weeks?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by wolfe14 View Post
    WoW brother...Give me a few minutes for my brain to catch up and I'll comprehend..lol..Thanks for your reply..I did use benadryl at 50mgs a night for the 2 weeks.. This alphaT2 can I buy this from NP or is this something pharmacutical that i will need to google? Also how will this aid me taken with clen? Last, should I wait 2 weeks off before starting back with the Clen and is the last 2 weeks more pronounced results wise than the first?? Sorry for all the questions but as you can probably tell this is my first cycle.. Also do you feel worn out on Clen or are you energized and have that feel good euphoric feel?? I felt worn out but think it was do to SD..

    Thanks again bro!!
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by wolfe14 View Post
    what do your cycles look like??? do you all exceed the 2 weeks?
    I am on my second week, and it wont exceed it.

    I went:

    40/60/80/100/120/140/160/180.

    I won't go past 220.
    Just inject.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    I am on my second week, and it wont exceed it.

    I went:

    40/60/80/100/120/140/160/180.

    I won't go past 220.
    Are you doing the 2 week on 2 week off protocol??? I did 2 weeks and this is the end of my first off week...I cant wait to start back on my 2nd 2 weeks..the first 2 weeks i saw some fat drop from around my muscles like arms and chest and a little from mid section but not as much from the Abs as i would have liked, so I am hoping the 2nd 2 weeks will target more from that area?? What are you taking during your off weeks??

  13. Quote Originally Posted by wolfe14 View Post
    Are you doing the 2 week on 2 week off protocol??? I did 2 weeks and this is the end of my first off week...I cant wait to start back on my 2nd 2 weeks..the first 2 weeks i saw some fat drop from around my muscles like arms and chest and a little from mid section but not as much from the Abs as i would have liked, so I am hoping the 2nd 2 weeks will target more from that area?? What are you taking during your off weeks??
    Well this will be my first set of a two week run. I do want to do another two weeks after a two week break. For inbetween I will be supplementing with CLA and am considering an ECA stack. I too have not lost as much from my midsection yet as I had hoped for and see it a bit more pronounced in my upper body area (maybe slight thinning of the face): shoulders, arms, etc. This is my first run with clen, so we shall see.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by wolfe14 View Post
    Are you doing the 2 week on 2 week off protocol??? I did 2 weeks and this is the end of my first off week...I cant wait to start back on my 2nd 2 weeks..the first 2 weeks i saw some fat drop from around my muscles like arms and chest and a little from mid section but not as much from the Abs as i would have liked, so I am hoping the 2nd 2 weeks will target more from that area?? What are you taking during your off weeks??

    Although 2wk on/2wk off does seem to be the best method on paper to allow constant Beta-2 activity... Clen's optimal results aren't usually realized in my experience and according to data until Week 6; which is why I always advocate ketotifen dosing @ 1-2g/day starting IMMEDIATELY in concert with your first dosage of Clenbuterol to delay the down regulation of beta-2 receptors (nothing can force indefinite 100% efficiency of beta-2, but Ketotifen can prolong their activity and function).

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    Although 2wk on/2wk off does seem to be the best method on paper to allow constant Beta-2 activity... Clen's optimal results aren't usually realized in my experience and according to data until Week 6; which is why I always advocate ketotifen dosing @ 1-2g/day starting IMMEDIATELY in concert with your first dosage of Clenbuterol to delay the down regulation of beta-2 receptors (nothing can force indefinite 100% efficiency of beta-2, but Ketotifen can prolong their activity and function).
    Ok, according to what data? post a link please.

  16. how would you do a 2 week clen run? 20/40/60/80/100/120/140 then 140/120/100/80/60/40/20/ then 2 weeks off? iwould adjust dosing according to sides give or take 20mcg

  17. Quote Originally Posted by fame126 View Post
    how would you do a 2 week clen run? 20/40/60/80/100/120/140 then 140/120/100/80/60/40/20/ then 2 weeks off? iwould adjust dosing according to sides give or take 20mcg
    You don't taper down on Clen. Personally, I would start at 40 and go up by 20 until I find the dosage that is perfect for me, hopefully stopping at no more than 200mcg.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by jaycuda View Post
    You don't taper down on Clen. Personally, I would start at 40 and go up by 20 until I find the dosage that is perfect for me, hopefully stopping at no more than 200mcg.
    so, lets say i would stop at 160 at the end of first week. you think i should stay 160 through all of week 2?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by fame126 View Post
    so, lets say i would stop at 160 at the end of first week. you think i should stay 160 through all of week 2?
    I think you'd be able to stay at 160 if you're using something like ketotifen. If not you'd have to keep tapering up which eventually wouldn't be worth it due to sides. I'd keep tapering until I start to experience sides I do not want to deal with.
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