GW1516...any first hand user experience?

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  1. IP what is the dosage/protocal your using? How is your diet on this? Amount of cardio etc.


  2. just started today, .5ml i also have aicar but need to get some sterile water for it.

  3. I've just completed my 3rd week on GW and am planning to run for another 5 weeks. I'm taking 5mg each day dosed once a day in the morning with my first meal.

    My diet is a carb cycling based on http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/par30.htm with Low, No and High carb days. The cycle I use is:

    Sun/Mon/Wed/Thur/Fri - Low carb (2150 cals, 200g pro/200g carb/60g fat)
    Tue - No carb (1750 cals, 220g pro/20g carb/80g fat)
    Sat - High carb (2550 cals, 200g pro/300g carb/60g fat)

    The cals change slightly as I eat different foods each day but the No carb days are always below 25g carbs and the Low carb days don't go above 200g carbs.

    Training is:

    Mon - Legs/Abs
    Tue - Fasted LISS
    Wed - Back/Shoulders
    Thur - Fasted LISS
    Fri - Chest/Arms
    Sat/Sun - Off

    Notes:

    - There is a definite diuretic effect with this product as I lost almost 3lbs in the first 4 days. I also experienced some headaches and had to increase my water intake during this time.
    - At 5mg the fat loss is slow and steady. In the 3 weeks I have used this product I have lost almost 3/4" on my waist and my shoulders/chest/arms are noticeably more vascular and leaner. I am at the stage where people are telling me that I am looking bigger as my arms are leaner so the muscles look bigger.
    - There hasn't been any noticeable loss in strength and I have been able to slightly increase reps/weight with each session.
    - So far there has been zero negative side effects other than the necessary increase in water intake during the first few days. If it hadn't been for the fat loss/increased vascularity I wouldn't even know that I was taking anything.
    - Normally when I am cutting I will use a similar carb cycling diet except the calories would be a bit stricter (50g carbs less on Low carb days) and I would also add in one or two days of HIIT. Even with more calories and less cardio with GW I am losing fat quicker than I normally would and the extra calories allow me to retain and gain a small amount of strength.
    - I haven't noticed any increase in cardio endurance but I am only doing 2 days of LISS per week.

    I don't think this product is the silver bullet that it is touted as on some of the more hardcore sites but, with a decent diet and training program, it can certainly increase the fat loss. I'm going to run this product until mid-September, which will be for a full 8 weeks so I'll post the complete results then.
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  4. EDIT - double post.

  5. thanks for the info!! greatly appreciated on this, i guess i am taking the proper dose? .5ml (from a 150mg x 30ml) ?
    also i am on cycle of Andro Lean v1 and went from 154lbs to 148 lbs in 2 weeks on...
    guess we dont have to worry about gyno on gw?

  6. You will need to check the site that you bought the GW from to check the dosage. Mine mentions 5mg/ml but I have also seen other sites that list it at 10mg/ml. This sounds like your product as 0.5ml would be 5mg, which is the normal dose and it sounds like you have already made some good progress.

    There aren't any worries with gyno on GW. The only known problems are that it can increase slow twitch muscles, which mean that you would increase endurance but lose strength and also it led to an increase in intestinal polyps in mice that were predisposed to polyps. I can't remember if there was any dosage or length of usage mentioned in the intestinal polyps study but unless you have a family history of bowel/colon cancer issues or you use a large dosage for a long time you should be ok.

    In either case I can't see 5mg for 8 weeks causing any issues and there have been some logs on the hardcore sites with people running 5mg or even 10mg for 16 weeks without any known negative side effects.

  7. People usually run 10-20mg day. 5 is very low

  8. thanks all, i'll up it to 10 this evening. guess it wouldnt be a good idea to find sterile water locally would it? need for the aicar (and also the sleep inducing peptide both from precisionpeptixxs dot com.) notice 1 is solid the other is powder, do you just put the water in and shake? - stupid question i guess) found the info - vial GW1516 30ml. 5mg x ml. 150mg x vial.

  9. Let me know how you get on with 10mg per day. I've seen some logs of more fat loss at 10mg but there can also be some side effects. For the moment I'm going to stick with 5mg as I am happy with the rate of fat loss and without any side effects.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by asianfreak
    thanks all, i'll up it to 10 this evening. guess it wouldnt be a good idea to find sterile water locally would it? need for the aicar (and also the sleep inducing peptide both from precisionpeptixxs dot com.) notice 1 is solid the other is powder, do you just put the water in and shake? - stupid question i guess) found the info - vial GW1516 30ml. 5mg x ml. 150mg x vial.
    Some peptides you don't shake because they will break apart. You'll have to look it up. Buy bacteriostatic water online and use that. Possibly available at pharmacies, I'm unsure

  11. the gw is a pink liquid and has a very small cloudy white liquid/swirl in it,, i swirl it around to mix it up, hope that is normal.
    also will the pharmacist ask me what im buying the bacteriostatic water for?

    -called walgreens pharmacy they dont carry bacterostatic water, so i went ahead and ordered it from amazon.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by asianfreak
    the gw is a pink liquid and has a very small cloudy while liquid in it,, i swirl it around to mix it up, hope that is normal.
    also will the pharmacist ask me what im buying the bacteriostatic water for?
    I have no idea if you can buy it at a pharmacy and laws vary by state. Amazon sells it as does other sites

  13. does anyone know the dose for the aicar? AICA Ribonucleotide (AICAR) [100mg X 2ml] via

  14. ok a week so far @ 10mg with just GW, these daily shots are hurting! lol bacteriostatic water should be in by Mon. and i will start the Aicar, the vial is very small with the powder in it, not sure how much of the water i should put in or the dose. i cant find anything online regarding the dose of the aicar, anyone have suggestions?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by asianfreak
    ok a week so far @ 10mg with just GW, these daily shots are hurting! lol bacteriostatic water should be in by Mon. and i will start the Aicar, the vial is very small with the powder in it, not sure how much of the water i should put in or the dose. i cant find anything online regarding the dose of the aicar, anyone have suggestions?
    Huh? Are you injecting the GW???

  16. ruh roh yes i thought you are suppose to?..

  17. Quote Originally Posted by asianfreak
    ruh roh yes i thought you are suppose ?.
    I really hope you're just trolling. Really really do.

    DO NOT INJECT SARMS!!!! They are for oral consumption, hence the oral syringes. Who knows what you've been injecting for a solvent

  18. crap these bottles looks like they were made to inject had to use the needle to poke thru the vial. im so stupid ugh
    they didnt come with syringes and i bought 100 pack.

  19. just took 5ml oral taste sweet sheesh!

  20. You were injecting the Gw? I just want to confirm.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by krogers58 View Post
    I ran a log on another site, but can't post a link, due to being a new guy on here. At any rate, my resting heart rate went from 62 to 48, my cardio output went from about 27 calories per minute to 32 calories per minute. I was able to increase my cardio heart rate from 152 to 176 for a sustained 60 minutes. Not such a high cardio rate, I know, but I am 50, so its decent. My body fat went from 12% to 7% (measured by impedence and calipers)and my weight lifting went up about 20% both in weight used and reps. My timed mile, before was sub 5 minutes, but I got down as low as 4:20, and and during the last couple of weeks, I was able to consistently put in sub 4:30 miles.

    The downsides I had, were some issues related to sexual arousal, kind of like what letro does to me. A little cialis and all was well. I also noticed a fluttering in my heart sometimes. I have had that happen years ago, but it returned several times while on GW1516. Overall, my impression is that its like a concentrated winstrol. Maybe 5 times as potent. I liked it, and intend to run it again, if I find myself slipping off of my numbers. The only point I'd make is to start really slow, and work your dosage up, SLOWLY so as not to harm yourself. Who knows, maybe this stuff will make your dick fall off in 5 years.
    I remember what company you mentioned you bought it from. The GW they sell now is supposedly 5mg/ml. I remember you saying you were taking like 105mg per day at one point. How was the GW you bought at the time dosed?

  22. yes you have to use a needle to get it out of the vial (aluminum ring)

  23. I'm not too sure if this thread has become a trolling thread or if people are being serious (hopefully not!) but you do NOT inject GW. It is made to be taken orally.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Sturmgewehr58 View Post
    I remember what company you mentioned you bought it from. The GW they sell now is supposedly 5mg/ml. I remember you saying you were taking like 105mg per day at one point. How was the GW you bought at the time dosed?
    I don't know if Krogers is still around but I also saw the log on another site where someone was running 100mg GW per day. The log was run around a year or so ago when there were problems with the purity of GW. In the same log the OP mentions that he thought the purity of his GW was around 10%, which would mean he would have been taking 10mg 100% purity GW per day.

    The purity of the product, from most sources, now seems to be much better so a normal dose is 5 or 10mg per day. If you are thinking of running it then start off with 5mg per day for a week or two and increase if you aren't losing fat as fast as you want to and aren't experiencing any side effects.

  25. i ran thru a bottle of GW from PP and i noticed alot more vascularity. like right away people noticed how more VIENY i was. this stuff works
    I am the Father of CLENviscerate

  26. Quote Originally Posted by warsteiner View Post
    I don't know if Krogers is still around but I also saw the log on another site where someone was running 100mg GW per day. The log was run around a year or so ago when there were problems with the purity of GW. In the same log the OP mentions that he thought the purity of his GW was around 10%, which would mean he would have been taking 10mg 100% purity GW per day.

    The purity of the product, from most sources, now seems to be much better so a normal dose is 5 or 10mg per day. If you are thinking of running it then start off with 5mg per day for a week or two and increase if you aren't losing fat as fast as you want to and aren't experiencing any side effects.
    Thanks

    I sure hope the stuff I got is legit, it's not cheap

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Sturmgewehr58

    Thanks

    I sure hope the stuff I got is legit, it's not cheap
    It's like 50 a bottle I think and two will run a decent cycle. Not too bad

  28. Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post
    It's like 50 a bottle I think and two will run a decent cycle. Not too bad
    Yeah, I got two bottles of GW and two of AICAR. I'm figuring 10mg of each per day.
  29. Question - Can i take GW1516 and Adderall?


    GW1516 30ml @ 5mg/ml (1 bottle)
    If im taking 5mg of gw daily, can i also take my adderall 30mg x2 with it? or is that dangerous? I've been on adderall for 2 years and i want to start taking my gw i just got in, will it harm me or is it safe?

  30. Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post
    It's like 50 a bottle I think and two will run a decent cycle. Not too bad
    o.O;

    $50 a bottle??

    What I'm looking at is $119 (without shipping) for 150mg bottle <_<;

  31. I've used ID but looked at PP..... Didnt know if they were legit
  

  
 

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