Final thoughts:
(1) I remembered that PEA/Phenethylamine is a popular stimulant type weight lose supp (with the dosage in the 100's of mg's); never tried it, but may be worth a shot. I venture to guess that some people probably don't know how close PEA is to amphetamine, so see below if interested. It's worth noting in general b/c it illustrates for say oral PS/PH users how a simple chemical modification can dramatically change a drug's properties and dosage (amphetamines are dosed in the 5-10mg/dose range).
(2) d-amphetamine/dexedrine and d/l-amphetamine/adderall in the unconjugated form (the base like test suspension instead of test enanthate) are simply d- or l- or d/l-"
alpha-
methyl-
phen
ethyl
amine". Clever, huh? As a parallel, Premarin (a pro-estrogen with 100+ conjugated forms of estrogens for Post-menopausal women) got its name from the fact that it is extracted from PREgnant MARe urINe. LOL!
(3) d/l-amphetamine unconjugated is 1/2 (d=dextro/dextrorotary)-hence dextroampehtamine. d and r are the same thing-just means right-handed stereoisomer which is a mirror image of the l-isomer/levoamphetamine, the other 1/2. The end result might also be just one isomer or the other, or require conversion of one isomer to the other to get 100% of one isomer (by the chemical manufacturers). This may be of interest to you from the perspective of the various supplements on the market (read on).
(4) By analogy, R-ALA versus ALA which is the racemic (R/L-ALA), less potent version. Aside from marketing and supp company shadeyness (sp?), there is consequently sometimes a legitimately increased cost to produce say R-ALA instead of plain ALA/R,L-ALA (as an example).
(5) d or l or d/l-methamphetamine is simply d or l or d/l-"alpha-dimethylphenethylamine". Refer to (2) above and you still get "amphetamine" as the name extracted from the above nomenclature. But the 2nd methyl group is in a different position, so they got really smart and just said "methyl" + "amphetamine" = "methamphetamine". It can be rewritten probably to "<number position>
methyl-
alpha-<number>
methyl-
phen
ethyl
amine" in which case the name pops right out. Again, why I do mention all this technical blah that probably doesn't interest many folks? Well, see the comment below. BTW, I read way too many organic chem and medline articles in college!
(6) The infamous Superdrol/methylmasteron/methyldrostanolone follows the pattern of double methylation in a very crude parallel to the amphetamine/methamphetamine relationship. Masteron/Drostanolone is an injectable and not really considered to be too liver toxic (like injectable dbol and winny are both liver toxic and both 17-alpha-methylated whether oral or IM; IM just bypasses the first pass liver metabolism thus preventing as much strain as the oral and producing a more potent effect).
But Masteron is already methylated, just at the 2-position (so 2-methyl I think) which is far less toxic than the 17 position. So like amphetamine, Masteron is already methylated, just not in the typical way (17aa), and the injectable isn't called methylmasteron.
However, when you 17-alpha-methylate Masteron, as you probably know, you get Superdrol. And like methamphetamine, even though it is dimethylated, it finally gets a methyl added to its common name (as it should). Superdrol is extra liver toxic as is
dimethazine which is two superdrol molecules with an azine (Nitrogen/N3) bridge holding them together. This is probably due to a combination of things, but perhaps foremost is that it is a dimethylated oral steroid (almost like taking two methyl orals at once which is why stacking superdrol with another methyl oral is really asking for it). It is written as 2,17-alpha-
dimethyl-... I don't remember the rest of it-that is the first part anyway, and you can write chemical names a hundred different ways as the supp companies figured out long ago.
(7) Lastly, I still can't post links and I have rambled on for far too long
onder:, but you can google "erowid" and navigate to the amphetamines section under plants and drugs for loads of info. You can also search by pharmaceutical drug name and you will find tons of "practical" information about the amphetamines and all the diet drugs mentioned in this thread. Some of the best info is found in article links and esp. "trip reports" where someone gives their weight and age and takes say 5 phentermine tablets to get high (or try) and reports if it was good/bad/ok/went to the hospital/friend died/addiction/etc (no kidding), as well as subjective comments and comparisons to other stimulants. You can even find trip reports on ephedrine there (morons OD'ing on ephedrine)!
I hope I didn't bore anyone to tears
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