Considering ECA with CKD, but not sure

[nevermore507]

Like the title says. I'm currently just starting week 6 of my CKD, but am only down 10 pounds or so (8 today since yesterday was my refeed). Seems like the big thing is a ECA, but I'm not sure if this is good while running a CKD type diet. Saw a couple posts that seemed to frown on ECA with a keto diet.

Been hovering around 2k-2200 calories a day for the last week or so, but had been up around 2500-2800, which was apparently too much to see any loss. Would you recommend I stick w 2k cal's for now, or try running the ECA along with the current program.

I had been lifting 5-6x a week, but have cut it down to 3-4, with a couple sessions on the evil evil treadmill/bike since I cut the calories. Cardio is always fasted in the am. Workouts are also am, with just CO Shotgun pre, and ON Whey pwo.

[EasyEJL]

eca should be fine

[ffmedic32]

I am about to start the same combo myself....Loggin it here
Looking for my 6 pack......

[nevermore507]

cool, thanks guys. Good luck FF!

Wally world has primatine tabs for about 9 bucks. If I do it, was going to start with 1 tab, 12.5E with 200 caffeine, and the baby aspirin and see what my body feels like. I'm pretty resistant to stims, and I'm a little leary taking anything for anything besides what its used for.

Still tossing the ECA around in my head and unsure if I should go with one of the otc burners like lipo, or xenadrine.

[DenDestroys]

If it's any more reassurance to you, I am using an ECA stack during the CKD, and I'm dropping weight nicely. I don't think it's interfering with me being in ketosis at all. If I'm not dropping weight, it usually means I have to drop the calories another 100-200, I just tweak with it to see what works for me. But doing the CKD diet will be very hard, especially on that final depletion diet, I need to feel the effects of the stims just to get me in the gym come Friday.

[nevermore507]

My trouble is getting out of bed :P Once I'm up and guzzle some NO Shotgun, I wanna run to the gym lol. Should I drop the shotgun with the ECA stack, or use it in place of the caffeine for the am dose?

[Royd The Noyd]

How much caffeine is in shotgun again?

Try to limit the eca use while your carbing up. Only thing in this thread I havent seen mentioned just yet.

[nevermore507]

How much caffeine is in shotgun again?

Try to limit the eca use while your carbing up. Only thing in this thread I havent seen mentioned just yet.

Ingredients dont exactly say. Redline Energy and Meldown 377mg. The "Caffeine Anhydrous" doesn't have an amount listed. Found another post putting it around 200-220. Not at 50 posts so cant put the link up.

And thanks. Just noticed that mentioned on another board I found searching ECA stack info. Saw some guys skipped the dose altogether on the refeed day, but no one specifically said to skip on the carb up day

[Royd The Noyd]

Yeah then just take the shotgun with your E and call it good on those morning doses.

Some guys feel pretty lethargic after a big carb up so they like to use it still. But really the refeeds/carb ups are a good time to lay off so it's more effective when you go back to low carbs again.

[nevermore507]

makes sense. I'm usually ready for a nap, but I try and chill out on the carb up day anyway, so this works out.

[Autobody]

be sure that you take potassium or at least get enough through your diet when taking ECA while on keto diets.

[nevermore507]

be sure that you take potassium or at least get enough through your diet when taking ECA while on keto diets.

Havent heard that before. Does the E affect potassium levels?