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    Another critique my diet thread-need pros only


    MWF-weight training days

    1st meal: oatmeal, 3tbpns peanut butter, one tbspn canola oil
    protein shake

    2nd meal: postworkout quick carbs and whey

    3rd meal: chicken breast sandwich (whole wheat bread), side of veggies, side of pasta

    4th meal: chicken breast sandwhich, side of veggies

    5th meal: oatmeal, 3tbpns peanut butter, one tbspn flax oil
    protein shake

    6th meal: chicken breast by itself, no carbs because this is my sleepy time meal

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    Tues Thurs and Sat:

    1st meal: chicken breast sandwich, side of veggies, side of pasta

    2nd meal: chicken breast sandwich, side of veggies, side of pasta

    3rd meal: chicken breast sandwhich


    4th meal: oatmeal, 3tbpns peanut butter, one tbspn canola oil
    protein shake

    5th meal: oatmeal, 3tbpns peanut butter, one tbspn flax oil
    protein shake

    6th meal: chicken breast by itself, no carbs
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    Why are you having fat and carbs in the same meal, repeatedly? You're relying on bread too much. Is this a bulker or cutter?
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    What time is that 5th meal and what time do you go to bed?
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    Don't you think it would make sense to eat most of that fat at night along with the chicken, instead of with all those carbs?
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    Get more low-glycemic index carbs in, you'll enjoy not having to diet forever once you do..
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    Quote Originally Posted by scotty2
    Don't you think it would make sense to eat most of that fat at night along with the chicken, instead of with all those carbs?
    Fat at night with the chicken?

    would that even make any difference though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpetefox
    Get more low-glycemic index carbs in, you'll enjoy not having to diet forever once you do..

    Even more? how?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BingeAndPurge
    What time is that 5th meal and what time do you go to bed?

    fifth meal is at 7pm

    sixth meal (meat only) is at 10:20pm

    then bed shortly after at 11pm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ps24eva
    Even more? how?
    Switch afew of the ones you eat for brown rice, sweet potato, and whole grain breads instead of enriched.. If you eat fat with carbs, you'll store them as fat altogether..
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    Yes bump to pete's response, Fat and Carbs are a no go on a diet specially if you are bulking, one gets used for energy either fat or carb and the other gets stored.
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    i don't know...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ps24eva
    i don't know...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpetefox
    Switch afew of the ones you eat for brown rice, sweet potato, and whole grain breads instead of enriched.. If you eat fat with carbs, you'll store them as fat altogether..

    well my sandwiches are whole wheat bread. THe reason why I have faster carbs like pasta is because the meals are either after workout or early in the day when you need to supply some boost of carbs.

    my meals get slower carbs more later in the day.


    about the storage as fat comment, I don't find that to be true. I'm leaner than ever, which is a bad thing because I want to bulk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ps24eva
    well my sandwiches are whole wheat bread. THe reason why I have faster carbs like pasta is because the meals are either after workout or early in the day when you need to supply some boost of carbs.

    my meals get slower carbs more later in the day.


    about the storage as fat comment, I don't find that to be true. I'm leaner than ever, which is a bad thing because I want to bulk.

    All your carbs should be low GI, doesn't matter what time(other than post WO). And, unless you defy the laws of thermodynamics, eating carbs+fat in the same meal will lead to fat gain at some point. If you're not gaining weight, eat more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ps24eva
    well my sandwiches are whole wheat bread. THe reason why I have faster carbs like pasta is because the meals are either after workout or early in the day when you need to supply some boost of carbs.

    my meals get slower carbs more later in the day.


    about the storage as fat comment, I don't find that to be true. I'm leaner than ever, which is a bad thing because I want to bulk.
    Dude, you asked for a critique "need pros only". You got responses from some of the more knowledgeable people on this board, and you go and doubt what they are telling you? Listen to what they are telling you and check some of the other diets on the boards for ideas.

    Good luck with your bulking.
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    i'm not doubting

    i'm just showing both sides.

    thats how people communicate.

    I have an affection for my diet as it has brought me a long way.
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    Then why did you ask for advice about it?
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    can bigpetefox and scotty2 post their diets so I can get some kind of model?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Lee
    Then why did you ask for advice about it?

    don't worry I will follow their advice.

    I'm just a stubborn *******
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    Bulking for me wold look like this:

    Meal 1: 1.5-2 cups oats, 2 cups skim milk, scoop whey, cup cottage cheese

    workout
    shake-(75g whey, 75g dex)

    Meal 2(1 hr after shake)-4oz whole wheat pasta(dry measure), 2 cans tuna, 2 cups skim, 1 scoop whey

    Meal 3- 6-7oz chicken, 1.5cup yams

    Meal 4- more lean protein(chicken, turkey, tuna, same weight 6-7 oz) 1.5 cups brown rice

    Meal 5- 8oz top round, 1-2 tbsp PB

    Meal 6(before bed) shake(casein/whey) 2 tbsp flax

    All this comes to around 500g pro, 400g carb, and around 100g fat for 4500 cals. This may be too much for you, but, you get the ideas on the meal timing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpetefox
    Switch afew of the ones you eat for brown rice, sweet potato, and whole grain breads instead of enriched.. If you eat fat with carbs, you'll store them as fat altogether..
    what i learned in school is dat the total ammount of calories is the factor that will decide or you will get fatter or lose fat. never heard about the theory eating carbs an fat apart from each other. in my opinion a good meal contains carbs, fat and protein. can someone explain they're theory behind it?
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    Dude, he already did explain his "theory" behind it:

    Quote Originally Posted by bigpetefox
    If you eat fat with carbs, you'll store them as fat altogether..
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulreaver
    what i learned in school is dat the total ammount of calories is the factor that will decide or you will get fatter or lose fat. never heard about the theory eating carbs an fat apart from each other. in my opinion a good meal contains carbs, fat and protein. can someone explain they're theory behind it?
    That's meant for sedentary individuals who don't have a high resting metabolic rate, like I do..

    Trust me, eating carbs releases insulin, which shuttles nutrients thru the body, and also has an affinity to fat.. Guess where the left over fats and carbs go when you don't burn them after that insulin spike?

    If I'm wrong, please check my update thread in the pics section, I should be obese..
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    You look absolutely great bro !! well i was just curious,my resting metabolic rate is not very high, i get fat very easy although i can easy put a lot of mass on my frame. Just started cutting for 2 weeks now and i think i'm gonna give it a try. I would be great if it could help me leaning out
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    PART 1 This deals with calorie consumption http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...sseating_1.htm

    PART 2 This deals with nutrient consumption/combination http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...sseating_2.htm
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