Eating Before Bed...let's get specific
07-12-2009 11:09 PM
Eating Before Bed...let's get specific
Working on cutting, what's everyone's suggestion for eating before bed...have been seeing alot of people suggest casein protein (before bed) for cutting, but how much, how long before bed, and most importantly the why's to these questions....
I am about 210 at this point, 5'9 23 slow ass metabolism, but bad ass workouts with a good mix of cardio and weights.
07-13-2009 12:05 AM
You typically want to stay in the 20-30 range before bed, but if you are running gear, and I mean the real stuff not the pro-hormones then up it to 40-60. Your body will be able to handle the extra protein. Need to add in glutamine as well. Pre-workout, post-workout and right before bed. These are all the times when your body needs it. If you dont want to add it in to the pre and post, its imperative to add it in your bedtime shake. People who dont are stupid, IMO. Also think about setting an alarm about three hours into your sleep to wake up and take in some whey isolate 10-20g. I keep a muscle milk light right by my bedside if I happen to wake up.
07-13-2009 05:16 AM
i would have to say about an hour and a half before bed. I'm cutting as well, and my knowledgeable friend also said put glutamine (i put about 4-6 grams) in your pre-sleep casein shake.
07-13-2009 07:13 AM
what ever happened to eating food before bed, cutting or not? everyone wants to spend money on expensive casin protein. ever hear of cottage cheese? guess what kind of slow digesting protein is in there? thats right, casin. check the calories to determine how much you can eat based on your diet. buy fat free or 1% to keep out/down the fat. and getting up in the middle of the night and interupting your sleep is never a good idea. whats more important, sllep or eating? i know thats not and easy question to answer, there both important, but i eat all day.....i only sleep so much. besides, waking up in the middle of the night interupts your RPM sleep and your bodies time to repair and grow...not to mention the more sleep you get the better your training will be.
07-13-2009 10:41 AM
i usually blend 1 tbsp of peanut butter with 1 scoop of whey protein and 1 cup of hi-protein, low-carb milk. comes out to be 12g fat, 40g pro, 12g cho. (316kcal)
i usually have this 1 - 2 hour before bedtime.
i try not to eat something RIGHT before bed to make sure my insulin isn't spiked and my growth hormone is being released.
07-18-2009 01:29 AM
Cottage cheese is good, but in moderation - watch those sodium levels
Originally Posted by lennoxchi
07-18-2009 12:43 PM
I just try to avoid too many carbs before bed as they tend to mess with GH output and sleep patterns. I'll also take ZMA and about 2 grams Glutamine about half an hour before bed.
07-26-2009 12:47 PM
I was going to ask what is ZMA, I just started 1200mg calcium/2g glutamine before bed...looking for something to add to that, this doesn't instill confidence, it is from wikipedia, but I checked out the resources, they are solid, the second referenced study is from the journal of international sports medicine....Marketing can make a fat down syndrome girl look hot....maybe a little too over the top, I hate most supplement companies, most companies in general for the manipulation they use to make profits...
---steps off soapbox--
"A 1999 study was undertaken on NCAA Football players during an 8 week spring training program. The control group was told to cease taking any nutritional supplements. Those who took the ZMA tablets showed greater increases in muscle strength. This study was funded by SNAC Systems Inc. (the patent holders) and one of the study's authors (Victor Conte) has equity in this company.
In 2004, a study funded by a research grant from Cytodyne (another supplement producing company) with 42 resistance trained males showed that ZMA supplementation had no significant effects on total and free testosterone, IGF-1, growth hormone, cortisol, the ratio of cortisol to testosterone, or muscle and liver enzymes in response to training. No significant effects were observed in changes in strength, upper or lower body muscle endurance, or anaerobic sprint capacity .
In another study done in 2006, a team of German scientists conducted a study on the effect of ZMA and testosterone levels in the body. The result showed an increase in zinc secretions in urine, but no effect on the level of testosterone in the body."
07-26-2009 09:39 PM
Before bed for me is all about not getting hungry overnight...
8oz chicken and some vegis are my favorite...
Night hunger is dangerous
07-30-2009 12:17 AM
Trust me that is in my notes for UD2 (chicken and veggies before bed on low carb days)...today was carb load...I am so bloated, went over my fat by like 50 g and missed carbs by 16 went over protein by about 30....guess its not an all out pigout...the Five guys burger and fries did me in!!!
08-01-2009 10:29 PM
Cottage cheese does the trick for me.
About 350g, 1-2 hours before sleep.
That's a good serving of protein and fat to last until morning (or close enough).
08-01-2009 11:16 PM
Whey blend shake and a couple spoonfulls of almond butter before bed keeps me satisfied until breakfast.
Always open light. It’s not what you open with, it’s what you finish with. Louie Simmons
08-02-2009 02:26 AM
Tonight was whey protein in water. And a small bowl of natty PB with a lil honey and a lil jam mixed in. I would eat some of the PB and then take a sip of my protein. It really does taste good.
08-02-2009 04:27 PM
Originally Posted by Tomahawk88
is there a special reason why you are taking in sugar from honey and jam right before bed?
For me, the action IS the juice.
08-02-2009 04:32 PM
I only add a lil to help with texture. Not even enough to make up 3 grams of sugar. More of a mind thing.
Originally Posted by soontobbeast
08-02-2009 04:47 PM
You can make pb pudding.
Vanilla whey (2scoop of isolate). In warm water (3-4ounce). Then melt 2tapblespoon pb and mix it in to the protein. And then put in fridge for a lil till ur desired texture then eat.
Usually ill have something right before bed. Cutting or bulking. And nvr carbs right before bed I try and limit the intake to no more then 7g carbs for pre bed meal.
To me casein is redundant. Mixing fat with protein will slow digestion time just as well without the milk sugar and the bloat if ur lactose intolerant.
08-02-2009 04:51 PM
Ya the amount of carbs I add is no more than say as if I was eating cottage cheese. It is more like to trick myself into thinking I am eating something besides just my natty PB which I eat constantly.
08-02-2009 11:14 PM
This is BS logic that people came up with, fat will slow the release of insulin but NOT digestion unless is it mixed in with the protein at a molecular level like marbleized fat in meats.
Originally Posted by crazyfool405
08-02-2009 11:18 PM
Any evidence to support that?
08-03-2009 11:15 AM
Same to you... any evidence to support it or just what people have told you to believe?
Originally Posted by crazyfool405
DC posted a ton of info on it... basically eat real food or casein before bed or you are tricking yourself into thinking your body can't separate a slightly mixed combo if fat and protein into it respective parts, the body is simply built smarter than that,
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