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Not the best idea. Penetrate is designed to go systemic more than local.
Correct!!! no systemic transdermals with this... no no no
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here is my dosage that i am running with much success

2 pumps of of Liquid clen = 40mcg every 12 hours = 80 mcg clen per day
mixed with EVISCERATE

2 DAYS off 2 DAYS On
meaning 2 days of CLENVISCERATE followed by 2 days of just regular EVISCERATE

How much Eviscerate? The least amount you can use to get a thin coat over the desired area

EDIT: if u are under 200lbs i would suggest dropping the clen to 1 pump to test tolerance levels

EDIT : dosage edited per metered liquid clen pump....will add the exact cc/ml amounts later
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Hmm iight, so gotta go with eviscerate. How much comes out per pump?
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Hmm iight, so gotta go with eviscerate. How much comes out per pump?
We sent out a batch with a pump that I am not satisfied with, which is .5ml.

The new pumps, going out today, dispense 1ml per pump.

Each "ab" side (ab and oblique) would take about 1-1.5ml - so one pump and apply one side, one pump and apply the other side, then a pump into your hands, rub together and finish your abs off.
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So the Clen is more potent when taking it topically? I have taken Clen orally before...

How are you getting 30 dollar bottles of clen? Does this sound right my bottle of Clenbuterol HCl is a 200mcg/ml 60ml bottle and it cost like in the 200's
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So the Clen is more potent when taking it topically? I have taken Clen orally before...

How are you getting 30 dollar bottles of clen? Does this sound right my bottle of Clenbuterol HCl is a 200mcg/ml 60ml bottle and it cost like in the 200's
You're getting ripped badly.
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so 3ml/120ml would last about 40 applications/20 days
i think thats about the same as napalm lasted me but i went with 2ml/application on that

Ironpope, how many mL is the pump on the clen bottle?

I cant wait to try this.
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So the Clen is more potent when taking it topically? I have taken Clen orally before...

How are you getting 30 dollar bottles of clen? Does this sound right my bottle of Clenbuterol HCl is a 200mcg/ml 60ml bottle and it cost like in the 200's
It's all about targeted tissues. Taking it orally will not only cause central side effects (clen side effects SUCK), but the active molecule will affect the entire body, not just the areas you want to lean up, which means you are getting less effect where desired.

Topical application will allow you to direct the effects, without central side effects.
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so 3ml/120ml would last about 40 applications/20 days
i think thats about the same as napalm lasted me but i went with 2ml/application on that

Ironpope, how many mL is the pump on the clen bottle?

I cant wait to try this.
Eviscerate is 180ml..designed to last OVER 30 days.
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So the Clen is more potent when taking it topically? I have taken Clen orally before...

How are you getting 30 dollar bottles of clen? Does this sound right my bottle of Clenbuterol HCl is a 200mcg/ml 60ml bottle and it cost like in the 200's
200 bucks would stock you up on CLEN for a long time... they really ripped you off.
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so 3ml/120ml would last about 40 applications/20 days
i think thats about the same as napalm lasted me but i went with 2ml/application on that

Ironpope, how many mL is the pump on the clen bottle?

I cant wait to try this.
10 pumps is ~1mL. 1 pump is ~20mcg

i over estimated HOW MUCH CLEN I WAS USING!!!...

200MCG TOPICAL IS WAY too much..... more like 80-100mcg broken in to 2 doses.
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10 pumps is ~1mL. 1 pump is ~20mcg

i over estimated HOW MUCH CLEN I WAS USING!!!...

200MCG TOPICAL IS WAY too much..... more like 80-100mcg broken in to 2 doses.
Thanks...you had me questioning your sanity.
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Hmm iight, so gotta go with eviscerate. How much comes out per pump?
10 pumps is ~1mL. 1 pump is ~20mcg
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Thanks...you had me questioning your sanity.
yeah i was nuts to post that....jesus

i edited my post...
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Eviscerate is 180ml..designed to last OVER 30 days.
yeah u get ALOT with EVIS.... very cost effective
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Eviscerate is 180ml..designed to last OVER 30 days.
oh wow, ya thats a good deal. I was going off the nutraplanet picture that said 120mL since there was no other volume measurements on the page.

so put like 3 squirts of eviscerate with like 4 lil squirts of the clen in hand and mix and rub. that sounds pretty simple
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oh wow, ya thats a good deal. I was going off the nutraplanet picture that said 120mL since there was no other volume measurements on the page.

so put like 3 squirts of eviscerate with like 4 lil squirts of the clen in hand and mix and rub. that sounds pretty simple
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I've still got a beta bottle of E, pretty sure that's 120ml.
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I've still got a beta bottle of E, pretty sure that's 120ml.
correct...the beta was 120ml.
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so put like 3 squirts of eviscerate with like 4 lil squirts of the clen in hand and mix and rub. that sounds pretty simple
that still sounds like a good bit of clen, 40mcg ?
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oh wow, ya thats a good deal. I was going off the nutraplanet picture that said 120mL since there was no other volume measurements on the page.

so put like 3 squirts of eviscerate with like 4 lil squirts of the clen in hand and mix and rub. that sounds pretty simple
really simple... just test your tolerances...i did 4 squirts of clen and a 3 or 4 squirts of EVIS and i was cooking like a turkey in the oven for 12 hours...
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that still sounds like a good bit of clen, 40mcg ?
You could get 30mcg of clen in a needle, and pump EVI in your hand, squirt 10mcg out, repeat 3 times. Or whatever you want to dose it at.

How would running an E/C stack with this? Since you say you dont get the central sides of clen from applying it this way, im assuming you could run ephedra with it...?
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that still sounds like a good bit of clen, 40mcg ?
4 squirts is too much at one time.....thats 80 MCG actually

2 squirts am 2 squirts pm for a total of 80mcg is what i found works the best for me with no sides or excessive frying.

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You could get 30mcg of clen in a needle, and pump EVI in your hand, squirt 10mcg out, repeat 3 times. Or whatever you want to dose it at.

How would running an E/C stack with this? Since you say you dont get the central sides of clen from applying it this way, im assuming you could run ephedra with it...?
EC stack is just a weaker form of CLEN... they target the same receptors....from what i have read over the years.

stackin CLENVISCERATE with the EC stack may be redundant...
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EC stack is just a weaker form of CLEN... they target the same receptors....from what i have read over the years.

stackin CLENVISCERATE with the EC stack may be redundant...
I have never taken clen before though, because the jitters and cracked out feeling people talk about.. E gives me more of an adreline rush and focused feeling.. But if I applied clen topical I wouldn't get the jitters/etc... And then be able to take E for the adrenaline/focused feeling an app suppresant.
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keep in mind the clen is targeting (in theory) just the localized receptors to where the eviscerate goes, where the ephedrine would be systemic.
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keep in mind the clen is targeting (in theory) just the localized receptors to where the eviscerate goes, where the ephedrine would be systemic.
also keep in mind that both work to free fatty acids, which still have to be transported into cells to be burned as fuel/converted into heat.

You need a systemic transporter formula to enable your body tokeep up.
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keep in mind the clen is targeting (in theory) just the localized receptors to where the eviscerate goes, where the ephedrine would be systemic.
this topic opens up alot possibilites....

what would stack well with Clenviscerate

and my next possible topic.... DNPISCERATE?
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