Originally Posted by ABNRanger

Forgive my ignorance, but I did a search for clen (no results), then I tried clenbuterol, and got yohimbe. So, my question is, what exactly is Clen? I realize it is short for something (I thought it was clenbuterol). Am I wrong? I have tried eviscerate (the one from RPN) before it hit the market (thanks Dsade), and it worked great. The soap worked fine too. Made my skin feel like silk.

clen is clenbuterol - a research chemical that is used as a bronchodilator ( just like ephedra/ine.

yohimbe is an herb.

Is liquid clenbutrol similar to liquid clenbutrx?

Originally Posted by Madooo

Is liquid clenbutrol similar to liquid clenbutrx?

Short answer NO

clenbuterol contains well clenbuterol

Clenbutrx is a supp that conatins
Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 3 ml
Servings per Container: 80

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Total Calories 9 **
Total Fat 0 g 0%
Saturated Fat 0 g 0%
Total Carbohydrate 1 g 0%
Sugars 0 g **
Proprietary Blend: 449 mg **
Caffeine Anhydrous 165 mg **
R-Beta-Methylphenylethylamine **
N-Benzyl-Alpha-Penylethylamine **
Pure E and Z Guggulsterones **
1,3-N-Dipropyl-7-Propargylxanthine **
Hordenine HCl **
Yohimbine HCl **
Geranamine Extract **
11-Hydroxy Yohimbine **
Methyl-Tetradecylthioacetic Acid (M-TTA) **
Cyclic Adenosine Monophosphate (cAMP) **
Alpha Yohimbine **
N-Methyl Tyraminope **
Octamine **
Evodiamine **
Vinpocetine **
5-Hydroxy **
Tryptophan (5HTP)

Crap...i bought clenbutrx thinking that was what liquid clen was but then after re-reading this thread i figured i was using the wrong clen...

Is there anyway the clenbutrx in dosage would equal the clenbutrol... Anyway? Such as 3ml of clenbutrx equals .5ml of clenbutol???

Originally Posted by Madooo

Crap...i bought clenbutrx thinking that was what liquid clen was but then after re-reading this thread i figured i was using the wrong clen...

Is there anyway the clenbutrx in dosage would equal the clenbutrol... Anyway? Such as 3ml of clenbutrx equals .5ml of clenbutol???

No mate sorry theres no way clenbutrx will ever =clen in any dose . It does not contain clenbuterol.Clenbutrx was a sup company play on the name to confuse people into thinking it was similar to clenbuterol

Originally Posted by Jbrooks

No mate sorry theres no way clenbutrx will ever =clen in any dose . It does not contain clenbuterol.Clenbutrx was a sup company play on the name to confuse people into thinking it was similar to clenbuterol

Alright thanks...ill just shell out 60 more bucks for clen...

Is it mostly safe to order clen from An online website? The website seems legit and all... This is clen and i dont want the feds knockin on my door the next day ...thx for the reply in advance.

When you are using Clenviscerate topically and in the process of cycling off it how do you consume Benadryl to clense the receptors?

Do you take Benadryl orally or topically as well?

Originally Posted by Jbrooks

No mate sorry theres no way clenbutrx will ever =clen in any dose . It does not contain clenbuterol.Clenbutrx was a sup company play on the name to confuse people into thinking it was similar to clenbuterol

Apparently it worked..again.

I know it normal to taper off of clen after two weeks of clen use... Do i need to do it topically as well??

Originally Posted by Madooo

I know it normal to taper off of clen after two weeks of clen use... Do i need to do it topically as well??

No, don't do that. Clen's anabolic properties show up after approx. 6 weeks of use. To prevent (or slow) receptor downregulation, take a benadryl every night before bed, the third or fourth week of your clen cycle.

Well, if your're using it topically, I wouldn't guess there would be too many anabolic effects because it wouldn't be circulating systemically, but beta receptor downregulation is still a factor in your abdomen fat cells- so do the benadryl.

Originally Posted by Madooo

Is liquid clenbutrol similar to liquid clenbutrx?

Research is your best friend

Originally Posted by Madooo

I know it normal to taper off of clen after two weeks of clen use... Do i need to do it topically as well??

DO 10 days on CLENVISCERATE and 10 on something else either straight Eviscerate or napalm. You can rotate this for as long as you like without breaks

Thanks for all the replies... I have one final question...i promise no more stupid questions...

I read this forum again and i hve noted that...
Some people are mixing tje clen and evis in palm and applying...
Some peole are applying the clen directly into the evis and applying...
And some are puttin the clen on first then the evis, which pushes the clen into the pores...

My question is...which is the most effective way to apply the clen an evis? Or does it not really matter?

WTF...the clen came with a dropper...no lines on it... and i dont know how much ml the dropper has...so theres no way for me to measure the clen...

i currently used 1 drop on one side of my lower abs and 1 drop on the other side...i hope it is correct.

i read somewhere, another forums, that 1 drop is equal to approximately 20 mcgs...is that correct??

Originally Posted by Madooo

WTF...the clen came with a dropper...no lines on it... and i dont know how much ml the dropper has...so theres no way for me to measure the clen...

i currently used 1 drop on one side of my lower abs and 1 drop on the other side...i hope it is correct.

Do the math bro ... 1 dropper usually equals 1ml, right? You got 30ml if you ordered from the site I think you did. And the clen is 100mcg a ml, correct? So do the math. You have a total of 3000mcg in that bottle. 6000mcg per bottle if the clen is 200mcg/ml. Just depends on where you went shopping. Let us know ...

I cant exactly remember how much i used to use per bottle of Avant Labs transdermal application, but it does work; as promised by the group. This practice has been around for quite some time.

Best of luck!
Sprt

Originally Posted by Madooo

i read somewhere, another forums, that 1 drop is equal to approximately 20 mcgs...is that correct??

Your going to want to use mor than 1 little drop. lol.

Here is what i used to do ... If I remember correctly:
I'd pour out a portion of my transdermal - however much volume I needed for the liquid clen to fit in the transdermal bottle right? So if I wanted 3000mcg of liquid clen mixed with my dermal, I would pour out (but save) 30ml of trasndermal. Toss te clen in and shake befor ever application. I always just took the recommended dose writen on the transdermal bottle (which was 2-4pumps 2x ED). & yes, the transdermal I was using was a pump. I never felt systematic symptoms from the clen; even when mixing 3000mcg to whatever volume the dermal was.

It takes a little thought to get right, but its not rocket science.
Here ... read this:
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/avant-research-labs/27557-spooky-lipoderm-ulta.html

This thread has a lot of good info - its older, but good.
Sprt

Thanks

go to walgreens pharmacy and ask for a baby dropper. my brother did and got 2 for free. they are also 1ml droppers so it is very accurate for measuring mcg.

I got my second bottle today. I had one of the original ones when it first came out, with the poptop, this one has a pump. Has anyone noticed a change in the texture of product? This 2nd bottle is more like of a solid clump inside the bottle thats hard to pump out - even with some clen added in.

Any suggestions?

Originally Posted by TheKaz

I got my second bottle today. I had one of the original ones when it first came out, with the poptop, this one has a pump. Has anyone noticed a change in the texture of product? This 2nd bottle is more like of a solid clump inside the bottle thats hard to pump out - even with some clen added in.

Any suggestions?

Give it a quick Hot Water bath.

We had a cold snap when I sent the last shipment, and it seems to have frozen the product causing EXTRA thickening.

A hot water bath will restore it.

I've since adjusted the thickener blend to account for the colder weather.

Heat it and ... "SHake-SHake Shake it, SHake it like a poloriod picture!"

Sprt

I have read every single page of this thread. I can't take oral clen as I am very prone to clen sides. Well, not just clen, but anything stimulating hits me harder than other people. Heart goes crazy.

I have read in this thread that heart rate, and BP do not rise when taken trasndermaly. How true is this? I would rather stay alive than to lose some fat, so I am wanting to find out how accurate this info is.

Also, is it possible to extract clen from tablets? I have 100 tablets I ordered before realizing I was sensitive to clen. If it's easy to extract I would save myself the $60 on buying liquid clen.

edit - I was thinking of using "heat" as a solvent - crushing pills, and filtering out binders through a coffee filter. I would use 30ml of heat, and an appropriate amount of crushed pills to dose acourdingly. Would this yield approx what I would get buying liquid clen? I just hate to waste what I have in pill form.

Edit 2 - I have 100 40mcg pills, so by my math I get 4000 mcg - which of course is less than the 6000 mcg most seem to add to a bottle. May have to use a little more when dosing.

Originally Posted by j3ff

I have read every single page of this thread. I can't take oral clen as I am very prone to clen sides. Well, not just clen, but anything stimulating hits me harder than other people. Heart goes crazy.

I have read in this thread that heart rate, and BP do not rise when taken trasndermaly. How true is this? I would rather stay alive than to lose some fat, so I am wanting to find out how accurate this info is.

Also, is it possible to extract clen from tablets? I have 100 tablets I ordered before realizing I was sensitive to clen. If it's easy to extract I would save myself the $60 on buying liquid clen.

edit - I was thinking of using "heat" as a solvent - crushing pills, and filtering out binders through a coffee filter. I would use 30ml of heat, and an appropriate amount of crushed pills to dose acourdingly. Would this yield approx what I would get buying liquid clen? I just hate to waste what I have in pill form.

Edit 2 - I have 100 40mcg pills, so by my math I get 4000 mcg - which of course is less than the 6000 mcg most seem to add to a bottle. May have to use a little more when dosing.

What the hell are you talking about???
"Heat" is not a solvent ... PEG, BA, BB are solvents. I'm sure there is a way to extractthe clen, but I've never made liquid clen personally so i cannot comment on that process. It's a little thick, so I'm assuming you would use a PEG solvent.

Either way, your better off forking out the extra cash to get a ligit bottle of clen. Usually around this time of year you can find buy one get one free offers or other discounts. Where I go shopping its only $25 for 60ml @ 100mcg/ml.

Sprt

I think he meant heet, the methyl alchohol fuel treatment

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

I think he meant heet, the methyl alchohol fuel treatment

Just use 90% isopropyl alcohol...methyl alcohol is not something you want on your skin.

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

I think he meant heet, the methyl alchohol fuel treatment

I did.

Originally Posted by dsade

Just use 90% isopropyl alcohol...methyl alcohol is not something you want on your skin.

That I have laying around the house already, so it's certainly convenient. I am going to order some enviscerate today - when it comes will use the iso.

Just ordered the eviscerate - I am hoping I got the order in early enough for nutraplanet to ship today so it makes it here by Saturday.

Will go ahead and strip the wax/binders/and fillers from my clen so it's ready when it gets here.

I also have some t3 on hand - will that go transdermal?