does coconut oil make you reach ketosis faster?
- 07-01-2009, 10:14 PM
does coconut oil make you reach ketosis faster?
ive seen it many places, but i don't understand the logic. people say that it raises your metabolism so you get rid of glycogen faster. however,since it is a MCT, and is burned quickly for energy( like carbs supposedly), wouldn't your body burn the MCT, instead of glycogen, therefore stalling ketosis?
- 07-01-2009, 10:57 PM
MCT's when used correctly would burn first prefferentially, I'll look for the link but I think MCT's are ketogenic because the breakdown of the fat would result in the formation of ketones.
- 07-01-2009, 11:05 PM
but ketones are used for your brain as glucose. so while MCTs do make glucose for your brain, how does that make your body shift to only using ketones and FFAs long after the MCTs have been metabolized?
07-01-2009, 11:46 PM
Ketones are used in the brain in place of glucose, not as glucose. MCTs make ketones for the brain to use. The raising of blood ketone levels and ffas are signals for the body to go into ketosis.
07-01-2009, 11:53 PM
but your body won't go into ketosis even with the presence of ketones, if your body isn't depleted of glycogen,right
07-01-2009, 11:57 PM
I thought MCTs interfere with ketosis? The body burns them differently than typical fats and it inhibits the metabolic switch. I wish I remember where I read that but I am pretty sure I seen it somewhere.
07-02-2009, 12:20 AM
i would love a definite answer on this. i'm taking coconut oil as well.
07-02-2009, 12:23 AM
07-02-2009, 12:41 PM
may as well take a couple tblspoons a day. i read on a few different lowcarb diet forums where people are taking it ALOT.
also, in case anyone didn't know, chromium POLYnicotinate helps you get to keto faster.
i say poly because it is alot more bioavailable than picolinate
07-02-2009, 01:36 PM
I posted the quote somewhere, but MCTs aren't the best choice on a keto diet.
CO would be used before glycogen depletion, thus prolonging time to ketosis. DNP, can be used to achieve ketosis (dangerously) quickly on the other hand.Originally Posted by Dr.Mauro DiPasquale
07-02-2009, 01:52 PM
thanks steve. that is what i had said originally. but i was swayed into doing it anyway
07-02-2009, 01:57 PM
and there it is!
07-02-2009, 02:33 PM
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07-02-2009, 10:12 PM
07-04-2009, 05:43 PM
In the medium chain triglycerides (MCT) each chain has 6 - 12 carbon atoms, and for the medically refined grades of MCT oil each chain has 8 - 10 carbon atoms.
MCT oil is interesting because, when it is metabolised in the body, it behaves rather more like a carbohydrate than a fat. The fuel of preference for the body is carbohydrate, and the body will use up its store of carbohydrate before using other fuels. Carbohydrates are quick acting and will be used within a few hours of eating, which is why we eat so frequently.
Unlike other fats, MCT oil does not go into the lymphatic system; instead it is transported directly to the liver where it is metabolised, so releasing energy quickly, just like a carbohydrate, and creating lots of ketones in the process.
The energy-enhancing properties of MCTs are attributed to the fact that they cross the double mitochondrial membrane very rapidly, and do not require the presence of carnitine. The result is an excess of acetyl-coA, which then follows various metabolic pathways, both in the mitochondria (Krebs Cycle), and in the cytosol, resulting in the production of ketones.
Long chain fats are converted into chemicals called chylomicrons by the digestive system, and these are then transported around the body by the lymphatic system before entering the circulatory system. This is a relatively slow process, and so fats metabolise more slowly than carbohydrates.
Long chain fats are metabolised by the mitochondria within the cell. Carnitine is essential to this process, because fat by itself cannot penetrate the membrane of the mitochondria. Each molecule of fat has to be transported across the mitochondrial membrane by binding with a molecule of carnitine. After the fat has been metabolised in the mitochondria the carnitine is again required to transport the waste product out as an acyl-carnitine.
07-04-2009, 05:47 PM
many say this and mct's do. I have never saw the research. It is good for testosterone production as not all saturated fats are bad. 20 % saturated fats of your total fat intake is fine.
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07-04-2009, 06:03 PM
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