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    cardio VS diet


    which do think will give faster results.......cardio with a so so diet.....or no cardio and really dialing the diet in? obvously both would be best.....but i am having a cardio VS diet face off here.

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    well i was doing a bit of cardio... diet was not on... and i could hardly see my loses

    then i got my diet a LOT better.. and dropped the cardio... and i actually see the fat leaving

    but this is my first cut.. so i'm not a guru.... but every post helps right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jumpcannon View Post
    which do think will give faster results.......cardio with a so so diet.....or no cardio and really dialing the diet in? obvously both would be best.....but i am having a cardio VS diet face off here.
    It depends on the individual (re training history, etc.), as everyone will get better results using different methods.

    No cardio and really dialling the diet in (so long as you were doing resistance training) would give the fastest results out of the two options given. As long as your diet is dialled in and you are performing heavy, hard, intense resistance training, then cardio is NOT required at all for fat loss.

    However, having the diet dialled in and adding in cardio (preferably HIIT cardio) on TOP of resistance training will give the fastest results.

    For myself personally though, if I had to say one or the other, I would go with a so-so diet and cardio (since that's what I do and I get pretty good results; I stay lean all year round and end up recomping). I would NOT recommend this way to others; it's just that I know what works for ME (and I do a fair amount of cardio generally, so adding in more is not really an issue).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Guejsn View Post
    It depends on the individual (re training history, etc.), as everyone will get better results using different methods.

    No cardio and really dialling the diet in (so long as you were doing resistance training) would give the fastest results out of the two options given. As long as your diet is dialled in and you are performing heavy, hard, intense resistance training, then cardio is NOT required at all for fat loss.

    However, having the diet dialled in and adding in cardio (preferably HIIT cardio) on TOP of resistance training will give the fastest results.

    For myself personally though, if I had to say one or the other, I would go with a so-so diet and cardio (since that's what I do and I get pretty good results; I stay lean all year round and end up recomping). I would NOT recommend this way to others; it's just that I know what works for ME (and I do a fair amount of cardio generally, so adding in more is not really an issue).


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    what do you have to say about including a Tabatha regimen in your workout?

    I agree with honing in diet and dumping cardio tho, I use to run so much and I wasnt happy with any of my gains, after I fixed the diet, weight routine and limited my cardio I got results that were much more satisfying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p00ndawg View Post
    what do you have to say about including a Tabatha regimen in your workout?

    I agree with honing in diet and dumping cardio tho, I use to run so much and I wasnt happy with any of my gains, after I fixed the diet, weight routine and limited my cardio I got results that were much more satisfying.
    I've never been real concistant with an interval regimine, I just like slow steady state better (and it works). But when I have done intense intervals such as a tabata workout they've always wrecked my ****. And theres plenty of research to back it up.

    As far as the first post goes, In the past I've always been a so-so dieter and very heavy on the cardio. But I could never break below 8-9% bodyfat. Now that I've gotten both aspects down I'm starting to see the difference. I think either method will work up until a point, and if you want to continue to progress you have to fix the other half of the equation (either cardio or diet).
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    Quote Originally Posted by p00ndawg View Post
    what do you have to say about including a Tabatha regimen in your workout?

    I agree with honing in diet and dumping cardio tho, I use to run so much and I wasnt happy with any of my gains, after I fixed the diet, weight routine and limited my cardio I got results that were much more satisfying.
    Tabata methods are great as a form of HIIT cardio and I have personally used this three times a week since 2004. It's a great option for better fat loss on top of diet and resistance training IMO (since endless, long cardio is UNnecessary).


    Quote Originally Posted by joelast View Post
    I've never been real concistant with an interval regimine, I just like slow steady state better (and it works). But when I have done intense intervals such as a tabata workout they've always wrecked my ****. And theres plenty of research to back it up.

    As far as the first post goes, In the past I've always been a so-so dieter and very heavy on the cardio. But I could never break below 8-9% bodyfat. Now that I've gotten both aspects down I'm starting to see the difference. I think either method will work up until a point, and if you want to continue to progress you have to fix the other half of the equation (either cardio or diet).
    It all comes down to the individual. If your body is USED to heavy/lots of cardio, then you may need it (i.e. I do cardio (albeit only 20-30 min/day 6-7 days/week normally), so even changing my diet a little I still need that in there, as it's part of my maintenance); otherwise you may not (i.e. the person who only does resistance training but has a terrible diet will make progress by fixing their diet).

    But definitely making sure that ALL parts of the equation are accounted for correctly will ensure the BEST results.


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    good info from all of you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jumpcannon View Post
    which do think will give faster results
    whichever one you can do consistently will give fastest results
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    I think diet is number one.
    Diet plays crucial role than cardio.
    Diet is the key.

    You will have best results if you do both diet and cardio well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    whichever one you can do consistently will give fastest results
    yea really. unfortunately thats the hard part! but actually i am glad its not easy! think about it, if it was everybody would have a great body. it gives us and edge in that department!
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    Whats more effective at building total strength? Squats or deadlifts? You'd be retarded to do one and not the other if strength is your goal.

    Likewise, if getting really lean is your goal you need both diet and cardio.

    There is no easy way out here, they're both ways of increasing your caloric deficit. Even on PSMF diets light cardio a few times a week will help you out, and those diets have pretty much the greatest caloric deficit you can have short of starvation.

    If I had to pick one, its diet. You can't out-train a ****ty diet. But really, you need to be doing both.
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    in my opinion exercise is A LOT easier to do consistently than dieting. i love going to the gym, but i don't like eating a plate full of eggs with no bread every morning, etc.
    For me, the action IS the juice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spadesofaces View Post
    There is no easy way out here, they're both ways of increasing your caloric deficit.
    right but if you are only looking for a 500 calorie deficit a day, its pretty easy to achieve with either one. Hour on an elliptical, or skip a meal
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    You already know what you need to do, so start eating.

    It's a flip of the switch. You either do it or you don't.
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    I personally like to cut very slowly, more like a recomp. I generally will cut my cals a bit and do no more than 15-20 min cardio 4 days per week, and I try not to lose more than 1lb or so per week. Some weeks I lose nothing, but I attribute that to muscular gain as well. It can take me 4 months to lose 15 lbs, but i retain alot of muscle. My cardio is done HIIT. I eat pretty clean year round though, last year was my first real dirty bulk.
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