how to prevent catabolism during weight loss?
04-15-2009 04:35 AM
how to prevent catabolism during weight loss?
I'm in a diet for a few weeks now , while working out 5 times a week
(1 hour muscle training + half hour cardio workout).
I'm 162lbs, and 18.4% bf.
my BMR is ~1800 . My calorie intake is also 1800 calories per day, with 14% fat, 43% carbs, 43% protein.
Until now I've noticed a loss of 0.7 lbs of FAT in one week, but also a 0.4lbs of lean body weight loss .
For protein I use chicken breast, tuna, salmon fish, 0.5% fat cheese, and an egg once a day..
also, most of my carbs are consumed from vagtiables and fruits
and I'm not taking any supplements .
How can I have a faster fat loss? while losing less lean body mass?
Tx to all of you!
04-15-2009 04:58 AM
up your protein, lower carbs, bcaas
04-15-2009 07:09 AM
Firstly its a lot harder to go catabolic that its made out to be imo.
Are you concerned your losing muscle? Are you losing strength?
I guess im asking, whats making you worried about this.
04-15-2009 07:29 AM
This is all the TRUE!!!
Originally Posted by ambulldog
04-15-2009 07:38 AM
I don't feel like I'm losing strength, though as I mentioned , I lost about 0.7lbs of fat per week, while at the same time I also lost 0.4 of lean body mass (muscles probably) which is not so good.
And regarding eating less carbs and more proteins, I read that in order for musclels to develop you should eat the same amount of carbs and proteins (or even more carbs than proteins), that's why I don't understand why people take 3-4 grams-per-kilo of proteins (and also I read that more than 30-40 grams of proteins per meal can lead to some health problems)
Also, my ultimate goal is to have a fit body with 10-11% of bf, and not a heavyweight champion's body. Do you think having a 1800 calorie diet (to lose weight) while lifting weights and doing cardio will set me closer to my goal? or must I first eat more and grow bigger (muscle-wise) and only then lose body fat with a lower calorie diet and workout?
04-15-2009 07:52 AM
Excuse me but how does the reduction of carbs help your body in NOT chosing muscle as an energy source?
Fact is man at 1800 cals a day (which does seem a bit low) very few people have what it takes to diet so strictly and do so much cardio that they lose lean mass.
Strength is an excellent indicator of lean mass whether your gaining or losing.
There are a few generic rules in play here, that apply to the average joe trainer, if your doing low intensity, steady state exercise, your body will look to use fat as an energy source.
On the other hand if your weight training, interval training. going 10, 3 minute rounds balls out on the bag, then its going to look to use carbs.
None of the above mentioned exercise state consider protein stored in your muscles as a significant fuel source. Only under extreme circumstances i.e. starvation will your body look to use protein as a fuel source, and even then it will look toward the more readily accessible BCAA's rather than having to break down muscle tissue.
Basically my advice is this; if your routines nailed and your diet is spot on and your not losing the excess, up your cardio.
Not doing 3 hours of steady state and minimum 1 hour intervals? Dont even think about complaining "its not coming off".
I have a borderline thyroid condition and after spending 6 years in a wheelchair my metabolism / eating habits are/were shot, not to mention the mental impact.
My weigh wasent "coming off" either, the reason? I wasent being honest with myself.
I wasent giving 100% in the gym, to my diet and to my rest.
04-15-2009 08:27 AM
0-hero , Thanks for the thoughtful advice, I am sorry to hear about your situation.
I wonder what are you thoughts regarding BCAA's supplements,
Is it possible to get enough BCAA's from food rather than taking supplements?
04-15-2009 10:13 AM
04-15-2009 11:21 AM
When it comes to BCAA’s im a believer of suck it and see, there is a LOT of support evidence for them but also a lot of people saying they are snake oil.
Personally, they are a staple for me, for the following reasons. Free form BCAA’s i.e. the white powder in the bags :P is much different and in some situations (imo) superior to consuming “whole” proteins.
I advocate them during an intense workout whether it be HIIT, cross training, MMA, Weight lifting and so on.
If and like I said it’s a big IF imo your body does get put into a state/situation whereby it looks toward gluconeogenosis (using other sources rather than carbs) for fuel then essential it is my understanding that your muscle tissue is stripped of BCAA’s.
Of course the argument is, if you supplement with free form BCAA’s, even if your body is forced into an almost catabolic state, it will resort to these instead of actual muscle tissue.
In short it’s a little safety net for those going balls to the wall frequently with high intensity week in, week out who are concerned about losing lean mass.
04-15-2009 11:46 AM
touche! ever since high school people have been preaching to me that you'll lose muscle if you do cardio, and you'll lose muscle if you do cardio in a fasted state. when i know triathletes who do hours of cardio and have more lean mass then me...
Originally Posted by 0-hero
04-15-2009 12:17 PM
x2 for real
Originally Posted by KgTomCat
04-15-2009 05:22 PM
Thanks again , and have a good week
04-15-2009 05:31 PM
week? its only Wednesday boss
Originally Posted by cs2600
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