whats more important for fat/weight loss?
- 03-10-2009, 02:38 PM
whats more important for fat/weight loss?
Is it the calorie restriction and eat whatever (healthy of course)?
or certain percent of the macronutrients?
Cause some people are eating whatever on cutting diets, but than for example the anabolic solution you need to cut carbs right out pretty much to stay under the 30g stated.
- 03-10-2009, 03:09 PM
- 03-10-2009, 03:39 PM
03-10-2009, 04:11 PM
03-10-2009, 04:24 PM
How about trying a normal restricted diet first? You keep asking the same questions over and over again like you will get a different answer. How has your experimentation at trying to go into ketosis worked out so far?
03-10-2009, 07:08 PM
03-10-2009, 07:13 PM
yeah, see then i'd just stop bothering with it, and go with restricted calories in general. Its simpler, and also easier to adapt to longer term life that way. it can be as simple as just removing a couple of spoonfuls of rice off your plate and one less glass of milk a day to start with. There isn't a huge advantage to a keto diet if you are within 300-500 cals of maintenance anyhow, unless you are trying to reach the competition ready bf levels
03-10-2009, 07:24 PM
03-10-2009, 07:36 PM
well, rather than reinvent the wheel, what was a normal days diet like before you started trying for keto? lets work from there and just make small easy changes first
03-10-2009, 08:09 PM
03-10-2009, 08:11 PM
Not much in carbs then? any sauces, spreads, butter, oils, nuts?
03-10-2009, 08:16 PM
03-10-2009, 08:17 PM
can you lay out what you've eaten today with as much detail as you can?
03-10-2009, 08:26 PM
6am- 4 egg whites and 2 eggs
1\2 cup cashews
12pm- protien shake (2 scoop whey, 1 tbsp peanut butter, flax seed, cottage cheese)
3pm- 3 tbsp peanut butter
4pm- 6oz salmon fillet with very little cream cheese
5pm- same as 12pm
and prob not eating any more
Theres no real diet im following because im so lost!
03-10-2009, 08:28 PM
so lets go backwards in time, 3 months ago. what were you eating like then?
hmm and the salmon fillet with creme cheese sounds nice, I dont think i've ever tried it that way with other than smoked salmon
03-10-2009, 08:34 PM
03-10-2009, 08:38 PM
well then crap, hmmm thats really not much in total calores. and you aren't loosing at that?
03-10-2009, 08:40 PM
03-10-2009, 08:43 PM
I'd mostly try and add in more fibrous veggies, if you look at your calories i'd first drop 1tbsp of pb, and drop the cashews to 1/4 cup, that should give you "space" for the veggies.
03-10-2009, 08:46 PM
03-10-2009, 08:48 PM
I think more of the fibrous veggies should help with feeling full too. plus could pick up some psyllium husks to add to the shakes
03-10-2009, 09:00 PM
tinker with the rest only once you have figured out that you are eating less than you expend. of course that doesn't mean eat 1500 calories of crisco a day... your ratios still must be within reason.
the finer tuning is when you get down to 10% bf or below, or are really trying to maintain muscle while cutting, etc.
03-11-2009, 01:43 AM
Are you just eating randomly? Do you have some sort of plan?
Basically when you go on AD you can pretty much take your level of caloric intake on a normal diet and just change it over to the nutrient percentages of the AD diet. In my experience on the AD diet you shouldn't feel much in the way of actual hunger, cravings yes, but if your constantly hungry it might be more due to your caloric intake and lack of vegetable intake.
If you are hungry on the AD diet you can always get in lettuce, green leafy vegetables, sugar free jello.
You really should have a good command of your caloric needs on a normal diet before moving into AD.
03-11-2009, 04:45 AM
i use the calories in < calories out model except i still think it can be paradox.
If protein, fats and carbs have different functions in the body (such as muscle building, hormone production and energy) then I don't see they all equate to energy. i'm not saying to ignore calories in vs calories out, but i'm saying there's got to be a lot more to it.
03-11-2009, 07:42 PM
03-11-2009, 07:44 PM
03-11-2009, 08:30 PM
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