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Ok I hit a plateau....I think. I have been cutting since january 13. I have been using American cell labs ah-89 /hmg. Here is my progress
week 1 weight 201 12.9%bf
week 3 weight 195 12.3%bf
week 7 weight 195 11.8%bf

Although I appearantly lost a .5% of bf in the past month I can not loose any weight. This past month was when I switched from the ah-89 to the hmg part of my stack. I watch my diet strickly. I put about 200 minutes of cardio in a week and lift 3-4 times a week. I just can not drop any more weight this month.
Any thoughts that could help?
 
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Woooo double post!
 
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Are you strictly trying to lose weight or cut some bf? Last time i heard, losing Bf% without losing weight was a good thing.
 
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Are you strictly trying to lose weight or cut some bf? Last time i heard, losing Bf% without losing weight was a good thing.
ya I know. That is a good thing. My goal is to get to 9% bf regardless of the weight. I am probably just whining because I am used to loosing and weight and then checking bf%.
So I guess I have nothing to complain about. Its just strange how all the sudden I stopped loosing weight.
 
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I wonder if its the hmg that maybe causing me to slowly gain weight in muscle yet my diet is causing me to loose the fat. Anyone who knows more than I do (which does not take much) have any thoughts on that?
 
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I hear your agonizing man. I was in the same boat 2 weeks ago. I completely switched my diet up to a carb cycling regimen and the fat loss continued. look into it a bit I promise you won't be disappointed
 
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yeah consider carb cycling...or at this point, see about cutting your calories bit by bit more each week until you start to see the scale change
 
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Cardio switching between Fat burn, and HIIT twice a day did it for me. Depends on how hard you hit the iron, i go pretty hard so muscle loss really didnt happen.
 
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sweet thanks! I will try both the HIIT and carb cycling. I will let you guys know how it goes. thanks again.
 
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It's fairly common to stall after 6-7 weeks of dieting. Try increasing your calories for a week or so to around maintenance w/ a moderate carb intake. That should help re-elevate your metabolism so weight loss can continue.
 
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sounds like good advice so far..............just keep poundin away at that silly adipose tissue!
 
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so ya I am going to start the carb cycling tomorrow and I start the hitt today. Hopefully I can get down to 9% bf pretty fast
 

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i didnt want to start my own thread but i have the same issue but a little different circumstance.

so, i started dieting mid/late january. i dont know percentages but i was at 205 and probably 20% bf (i was fat). ive gotten down to 195 and slimmed down a little bit (maybe 15% bf, and slightly less fat).

problem is ive been unable to drop more weight for the past 2 weeks (maybe less). my diet hasnt been much of a problem, though some days i wind up 500 or so calories short. but i have no weight equipment, cant afford a gym, so ive been only doing cardio (running, sparring ) 5-6 days a week.

aside from eating more, what else can i do with my diet to continue weight loss? my body generally doesnt like carbs much, so im not sure that i should try this carb cycling. i guess i could go HIIT style when i jog (sparring is like that already).

im trying to get down to around....165-170ish but end of summer, maybe the end of the year. again im in no hurry, but losing weight will help with my fights.
 
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man I started the carb cycling last tuesday and within that week i went from 11.3% bf to 9.9% and lost absolutly no weight. I was floored! I did the carb cycling and hiit and zap! The bf% started to shred! was f'ing amazing!
 
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WOW! thats great to hear! Seems like your on track bud! good luck!
 
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I know there are a lot of articles about it out there...but does anyone have a link they prefer that goes into detail about carb cycling?
 
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i hate plateaus ive been at one for almost a year now...my strength is going up so i stop complaining but the needle wont budge. keep it up though man im sure itll crack sometime it has to.
 
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I know there are a lot of articles about it out there...but does anyone have a link they prefer that goes into detail about carb cycling?
ok the site's not letting me post a link because my post count isn't high enough, but go to bodybuilding.com and search carb cycling. Theres a couple articles by Twin Peak that are really helpful. This is the one I used to get started. Covers all the fundamentals. good luck
 
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ok the site's not letting me post a link because my post count isn't high enough, but go to bodybuilding.com and search carb cycling. Theres a couple articles by Twin Peak that are really helpful. This is the one I used to get started. Covers all the fundamentals. good luck
Perfect...thanks!
 
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man I started the carb cycling last tuesday and within that week i went from 11.3% bf to 9.9% and lost absolutly no weight. I was floored! I did the carb cycling and hiit and zap! The bf% started to shred! was f'ing amazing!
Good job bro, i knew that would do it for you
 
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man I started the carb cycling last tuesday and within that week i went from 11.3% bf to 9.9% and lost absolutly no weight. I was floored! I did the carb cycling and hiit and zap! The bf% started to shred! was f'ing amazing!
sometimes steroids do that. you do have a PCT lined up right? congrats on the fat loss too :) - lots of hard work involved with that.
 
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Ill bump for one quick carb cycling question so I dont have to waste a new thread. Some articles mention "No Carb" days as they are literally NO carbs...but then I read articles with no carb days as more "very low" carb days. Opinions? Thoughts? Curious as, my protein for example, has 1 carb per scoop. Should I be shooting for ZERO...or something like sub 8-10g?
 
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when it says no carbs, its pretty much damn impossible to get by with no cars lol. i just go with the minimum i can such as proteins etc. i imagine those minimal amounts would have any effect as opposed to a high carb day like 800g
 
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sometimes steroids do that. you do have a PCT lined up right? congrats on the fat loss too :) - lots of hard work involved with that.
PCT? I was told you dont need a PCT!?!?!?
Just kidding. Ya I am taking clomid for the next 4 weeks

Oh and to the question about the no carb day. I pretty much try to stick to 10 or less in a day. It is impossible to get NO carbs.

I am going to continue to cut through my pct and I am going to roll right into my next cycle of
test cyp 500mg week 1-12
dbol 25mg week 1-4
I am going to take an AI also. I hope to get down to 9% before I start my bulking cycle. (just a goal I was shooting for)
 
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man seriously I cant not believe how much the carb cycling worked. I am now at 185.00
So in like a week dropped 9 pounds. I am going to check my bf% tomorrow and make sure I have not lost much lean mass
 
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PCT? I was told you dont need a PCT!?!?!?
Just kidding. Ya I am taking clomid for the next 4 weeks

Oh and to the question about the no carb day. I pretty much try to stick to 10 or less in a day. It is impossible to get NO carbs.

I am going to continue to cut through my pct and I am going to roll right into my next cycle of
test cyp 500mg week 1-12
dbol 25mg week 1-4
I am going to take an AI also. I hope to get down to 9% before I start my bulking cycle. (just a goal I was shooting for)
oh thank god. you scared me with your first sentence.

by no means was i trying to negate the hard work you put in, just making sure you knew what you were on. congrats man :)
 
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oh thank god. you scared me with your first sentence.

by no means was i trying to negate the hard work you put in, just making sure you knew what you were on. congrats man :)

ha ha. Ya I thought that would be funny. No i saw another thread where someone was suprised that he was suppose to be on a pct. And so I thought it would be funny.
 
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man seriously I cant not believe how much the carb cycling worked. I am now at 185.00
So in like a week dropped 9 pounds. I am going to check my bf% tomorrow and make sure I have not lost much lean mass
What is your carb cycling layout?
 
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i keep it real simple.
Day 1 as many good carbs as I want (maintaining 2100 calories a day)
Day 2 100g or less
day 3 no carbs
then repeat the cycle
 
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i keep it real simple.
Day 1 as many good carbs as I want (maintaining 2100 calories a day)
Day 2 100g or less
day 3 no carbs
then repeat the cycle
Right on ;) Thats about where Im at (200+ on high days, 150 on low, and less than 10g on NO days.)
 
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One more question...what did you find was the optimal day for weighing in (for lowest weight?)

I weighed in this morning after my first week of cycling...and still no weight loss. :( Needless to say it was a huge dissapointment.
 
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i just weigh myself at random. Always in the morning though. But I kind of take a weight measurment every other day and average the results.
 
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also my last day of cutting is today. I am starting a bulking cycle the first week of april. So i am going to start eating 500 above maintenance starting tomorrow to get myself use to that diet. Hell I have been dieting and cutting since august!
man your 5 8' and 165 pounds? what is your bf%? I
 
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ha ha. Ya I thought that would be funny. No i saw another thread where someone was suprised that he was suppose to be on a pct. And so I thought it would be funny.
I would imagine a good portion of the 9 pounds was probably water weight and some gi tract weight...lol....like a free colonic!
 
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I would have a hard time thinking that was water because the first part of the stack was ah-89 so the ph of winny. And that made me go from 201 to 195 in a few days! I was dry as hell! my joints hurt and everything. If i lost another 9 pounds from water then it was shock the **** out of me
 
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I would have a hard time thinking that was water because the first part of the stack was ah-89 so the ph of winny. And that made me go from 201 to 195 in a few days! I was dry as hell! my joints hurt and everything. If i lost another 9 pounds from water then it was shock the **** out of me
well, i would anticipate a few pounds of pure "crap" then to be honest. Like you notice once you carb cycle it is not out of the ordinary to gain 5 pounds plus on carb up days.
 
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Weighed in this morning after my no carb day (yesterday). Not only did I lose weight, Im supposidly up 2.5lbs. Ugh. I just dont get it. How in the hell at a caloric deficit...
 
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man also what I did was started to incorporate a HIIT routine. That also I think helped.
 
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have you been checking your bf%? If you read earlier in the post I was pissed because I was not loosing any weight but I was loosing bf%. Stupid i know. but once I got off the epistane and on my post cycle I sure did loose weight. probably some lean mass to. :-(
 
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Sonofabitch it worked. Down just over 2lbs today...and Im not even on the day that Ill be at my lowest water weight lol! Schweet!
 
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good job! It does work.
I am going the opposite way now. I gained 8.8 pounds in a week!
 
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good job! It does work.
I am going the opposite way now. I gained 8.8 pounds in a week!
Yeah I couldnt believe it. I changed things around a little bit:

Day 1: Back and Biceps (High Carb - 50/40/10 - 2ooo cal)
Day 2: Chest and Triceps (Low Carb - 155g Carbs - 30/55/15 - 18oo cal)
Day 3: Rest (No Carb - Carbs Under 10-15g - 16oo cal)
Day 4: Quads, Hams, and Calves (High Carb - 50/40/10 - 2ooo cal)
Day 5: Shoulders, Traps (Low Carb - 155g Carbs - 30/55/15 - 18oo cal)
Day 6: LISS & Rest (No Carb - Carbs Under 10g - 16oo cal)
Day 7: LISS & Rest (No Carb - Carbs Under 10g - 16oo cal)

This week I decided to go to maintenance on my Day 1 (which was tough mentally...Im so used to caloric deficit lol). Weighed in and a huge surprise to be down so low. This is the leanest Ive ever been. Cant wait to see what the following weeks have in store! I havent decided if Ill continue to go to maintenance on high days or just to 2k though...
 

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