[maurice02]

what kind of weekly weight loss is typical with ketosis? 2 - 3 pounds safely before being concerned of muscle loss?

[EasyEJL]

This is what I thought. Now it looks like too much protein is bad!? I'm getting confused because that will leave me with just about nothing to eat but lard, lol! Please help me understand this more, it's still new to me and I was also under the assumption that it was pretty much the same thing as the Atkin's diet with small differences. Also, if anybody could help me understand what kind of meal plan I should look at, i.e. macros? I will rep any help (yes I know my reps are small but they are much larger on three other boards and can do it there too!)

Any of the nuts are good, avocados, coconut oil, olive oil, etc. An excess of protein can make it harder to get into ketosis and possibly kick you out. On a true CKD, you want to stay under 30g net carbs for the day, and .8g/lb of protein. the rest is fats.

what kind of weekly weight loss is typical with ketosis? 2 - 3 pounds safely before being concerned of muscle loss?

yeah, that is quite possible. basically if you are truly in ketosis, you can start clipping calories down and if you are using ketostixs to be sure you are staying in ketosis then you can continue dropping calories with minimal concern about loosing muscle. you can even get protein down to as low as .6g/lb if you aren't doing really heavy workouts (like if you are just doing circuit training)

[MrBrightside]

You're keto on the anabolic diet, aren't you? What's the deal with the protein intake then, doesn't that kind of conflict?

[EasyEJL]

no, the anabolic diet isn't keto.

[MrBrightside]

Oh wow. That's pretty integral to the diet, I can't believe I thought wrong. Thanks.

[EasyEJL]

its a bouncy carb diet so although there are low carb days, and its possible for you to go into ketosis during it, that isn't its primary goal and it doesn't fail if you dont reach ketosis. its more about optimizing hormones

[kingjameskjf]

its a bouncy carb diet so although there are low carb days, and its possible for you to go into ketosis during it, that isn't its primary goal and it doesn't fail if you dont reach ketosis. its more about optimizing hormones

Thanks for the help bro!

[ThomasRivera]

You're keto on the anabolic diet, aren't you? What's the deal with the protein intake then, doesn't that kind of conflict?

cyclic ketogenic diet is the category that AD falls under. CKD diets fall under the general layout of being a set of low carb days, maybe with a day with a small carb up if the amount of low carb days are wide and is followed by a carb load. TKD diets utilize carbs before and after workouts to keep glycogen levels at somewhere of a set point. Pure keto diets which I don't think work as well as CKD keeps you low carb without carb ups.

I think ketogenic diets are misnomers, mainly because the actual amount of ketones utilized on AD or other CKD diets doesn't come close to matching the calorie expenditure of FFA's.