Bodybuilding ForumYour AmSpace Profile
AnabolicMinds.com Forum > Nutrition Forum > Weight loss  
Join Anabolicminds.com!! Register Today!
Old 12-08-2003, 01:59 PM   #1
Board Supporter
 
DieTrying's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Age: 25
Posts: 916
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 DieTrying is on a distinguished road
Points: 5,763, Level: 32Points: 5,763, Level: 32Points: 5,763, Level: 32
Level up: 33%, 237 Points neededLevel up: 33%, 237 Points neededLevel up: 33%, 237 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Hit a plateau in my fat-loss plan.

For the most part my fat-loss goal has all but been reached except for probably a few more pounds around my stomach and ass. I have a very hard time keeping myself lean (fat genetics). When I first started dieting and doing cardio, I was dropping fat like Champs dropped Keyshawn Johnson jerseys. But now I'M STUCK. Any advice or things I can do to get rid of these last few pounds?
 



CSCS, CISSN

Support the International Society of Sports Nutrition
DieTrying is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2003, 04:33 PM   #2
Registered User
 
Bryan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 226
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 Bryan is on a distinguished road
Points: 1,061, Level: 12Points: 1,061, Level: 12Points: 1,061, Level: 12
Level up: 13%, 39 Points neededLevel up: 13%, 39 Points neededLevel up: 13%, 39 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
check your caloric intake/carb intake.
 
Bryan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2003, 05:27 PM   #3
second class citizen
 
scotty2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Age: 35
Posts: 1,111
Leave Comment
Reputation: 161 scotty2 has a spectacular aura about
Points: 2,429, Level: 20Points: 2,429, Level: 20Points: 2,429, Level: 20
Level up: 21%, 121 Points neededLevel up: 21%, 121 Points neededLevel up: 21%, 121 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
need more info(diet, training, etc)
 
scotty2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2003, 10:12 AM   #4
Board Supporter
 
DieTrying's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Age: 25
Posts: 916
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 DieTrying is on a distinguished road
Points: 5,763, Level: 32Points: 5,763, Level: 32Points: 5,763, Level: 32
Level up: 33%, 237 Points neededLevel up: 33%, 237 Points neededLevel up: 33%, 237 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
I've been lifting each body part once a week, and doing cardio 3 or 4 days a week. Each of my cardio sessions is about 30 minutes... I've been doing this for maybe 4 or 5 months and have lost around 50 to 60 pounds. I'm now stuck around 185-190 range. Had bodyfat tested in September at 18%, last week at 9%. I don't know how accurate these readings are, but thats what the results were.

My diet is very, very clean. Its basically very high protein, low carbs, healthy fats. I never eat carbs after 6 or 7, and on non-training days I've been eating much more fats and less carbs.

Supps I've been using: Tight, CLA, Green Tea, Flax

Anybody got some pointers to get me over the wall?
 



CSCS, CISSN

Support the International Society of Sports Nutrition
DieTrying is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2003, 11:04 AM   #5
Registered User
 
Bryan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 226
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 Bryan is on a distinguished road
Points: 1,061, Level: 12Points: 1,061, Level: 12Points: 1,061, Level: 12
Level up: 13%, 39 Points neededLevel up: 13%, 39 Points neededLevel up: 13%, 39 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
if you're truely at 9% you're going to have a hard time cutting down no matter what. Maybe toss in some fish oils and a tropical product(T-Heat etc) for the problem areas.
 
Bryan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2003, 11:38 AM   #6
second class citizen
 
scotty2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Age: 35
Posts: 1,111
Leave Comment
Reputation: 161 scotty2 has a spectacular aura about
Points: 2,429, Level: 20Points: 2,429, Level: 20Points: 2,429, Level: 20
Level up: 21%, 121 Points neededLevel up: 21%, 121 Points neededLevel up: 21%, 121 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Quote:
Originally posted by DieTrying
I've been lifting each body part once a week, and doing cardio 3 or 4 days a week. Each of my cardio sessions is about 30 minutes... I've been doing this for maybe 4 or 5 months and have lost around 50 to 60 pounds. I'm now stuck around 185-190 range. Had bodyfat tested in September at 18%, last week at 9%. I don't know how accurate these readings are, but thats what the results were.

My diet is very, very clean. Its basically very high protein, low carbs, healthy fats. I never eat carbs after 6 or 7, and on non-training days I've been eating much more fats and less carbs.

Supps I've been using: Tight, CLA, Green Tea, Flax

Anybody got some pointers to get me over the wall?
gonna have to post a sample diet
 
scotty2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2003, 11:21 AM   #7
 
Jergo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Age: 27
Posts: 1,438
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 Jergo is on a distinguished road
Points: 9,394, Level: 29Points: 9,394, Level: 29Points: 9,394, Level: 29
Level up: 30%, 556 Points neededLevel up: 30%, 556 Points neededLevel up: 30%, 556 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
A lot of people I know who have had the same problem as you used yohimbine to knock off those last couple of pounds. It inhibits the activation of alpha-2 receptors. A-2 receptors are what stop fat breakdown and mobilization.

Fat thats around you buttocks and stomach are mostly made up of A-2 receptors, so this would be beneficial to those areas that you speak of.

When stimulating the release of adrenaline and noradrenaline BOTH main types of receptors are stimulated, being B-2 and A-2.

So, continue with the B-2, stop the A-2.

But most and foremost, post your diet so we can see what foods you are eating.

EDIT: Oh, I see now that Tight has yohimbine in it. oops.
 
Jergo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2003, 02:37 PM   #8
Registered User
 
heavyD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Age: 29
Posts: 7
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 heavyD is on a distinguished road
Points: 334, Level: 6Points: 334, Level: 6Points: 334, Level: 6
Level up: 7%, 66 Points neededLevel up: 7%, 66 Points neededLevel up: 7%, 66 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Generally speaking, it takes approx. 20 minutes to start burning fat during a cardio work out. that means that of the 30 minutes that you are doing it, roughly 20 of it are spent burning other fuel. you maight want to try bumping up to about 40 minutes. if you don't do it all ready, switching up your cardio routine may restart your fat burning. I kknow the more cardio you do, the risks of catabolism increase. It may be the bullet ththat you have to bite.
 
heavyD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2003, 11:56 PM   #9
Board Supporter
 
DieTrying's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Age: 25
Posts: 916
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 DieTrying is on a distinguished road
Points: 5,763, Level: 32Points: 5,763, Level: 32Points: 5,763, Level: 32
Level up: 33%, 237 Points neededLevel up: 33%, 237 Points neededLevel up: 33%, 237 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Sorry its taken so long fellas- here is an average day for me

8:00
10 egg whites, 1/2 cup of Fiber One

10:00 (pre-workout)
1 can of tuna
1 large sweet potato

12:30ish
post workout shake-2 scoops(Optimum)
taken with 1 cup oats

3:00
(2) 6 oz chicken breasts (usually baked with garlic and olive oil)

6:00
Another optimum shake
A big salad (spinach, brocolli,garbanzo beans,sunflower seeds,cucumber)

8:30
2 cans of tuna
2 tbsps Natural peanut butter

10:30
1 cup cottage cheese
Flax
 



CSCS, CISSN

Support the International Society of Sports Nutrition
DieTrying is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2003, 10:20 AM   #10
 
Jergo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Age: 27
Posts: 1,438
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 Jergo is on a distinguished road
Points: 9,394, Level: 29Points: 9,394, Level: 29Points: 9,394, Level: 29
Level up: 30%, 556 Points neededLevel up: 30%, 556 Points neededLevel up: 30%, 556 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Your foods don't look too bad, but are you counting and monitoring calories all hte while? If so, have you tried reducing them again by like 400 or so since last major loss of lbs.?
 
Jergo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2003, 03:05 PM   #11
Registered User
 
Rokdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 42
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 Rokdog is on a distinguished road
Points: 380, Level: 6Points: 380, Level: 6Points: 380, Level: 6
Level up: 7%, 20 Points neededLevel up: 7%, 20 Points neededLevel up: 7%, 20 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
There is a book out by Lyle McDonald called "The Ultimate Diet 2.0" that I managed to get to read. It is directed at the athlete who is trying to lose those last few percentages of BF. A discription of the book is at http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/
 
Rokdog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2003, 04:21 PM   #12
Board Supporter
 
intv's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Age: 39
Posts: 382
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 intv is on a distinguished road
Points: 748, Level: 10Points: 748, Level: 10Points: 748, Level: 10
Level up: 11%, 52 Points neededLevel up: 11%, 52 Points neededLevel up: 11%, 52 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
You could try bumping your calories up to maintenance for 2-4 weeks, then dropping back into your diet to shock your metabolism some.
 
intv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2003, 10:59 PM   #13
MS,NSCA,ACE
 
whale's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Age: 36
Posts: 152
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 whale is on a distinguished road
Points: 608, Level: 9Points: 608, Level: 9Points: 608, Level: 9
Level up: 10%, 92 Points neededLevel up: 10%, 92 Points neededLevel up: 10%, 92 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Your RMR has probably dropped back down in an attempt to make sure you dont starve. This is common in a ieting situation. So your normal harris ben. predictions might be lower than you think. Eat a bit more if you can and then drop back off for a while should do the trick.

whale
 
whale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2003, 07:04 PM   #14
Registered User
 
Ceaze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 46
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 Ceaze is on a distinguished road
Points: 440, Level: 7Points: 440, Level: 7Points: 440, Level: 7
Level up: 8%, 60 Points neededLevel up: 8%, 60 Points neededLevel up: 8%, 60 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Ultimate Diet 2.0 kicks ass
 
Ceaze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2004, 02:32 AM   #15
Registered User
 
joey523006's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 15
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 joey523006 is on a distinguished road
Points: 860, Level: 11Points: 860, Level: 11Points: 860, Level: 11
Level up: 12%, 90 Points neededLevel up: 12%, 90 Points neededLevel up: 12%, 90 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
hey man i knew some one who had the exact same problem add some carbs to your diet you do not have enough. You should see good results
 
joey523006 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2004, 02:58 AM   #16
Registered User
 
joey523006's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 15
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 joey523006 is on a distinguished road
Points: 860, Level: 11Points: 860, Level: 11Points: 860, Level: 11
Level up: 12%, 90 Points neededLevel up: 12%, 90 Points neededLevel up: 12%, 90 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Dude you need more carbs. Let me guess, you are at a plateau and when you go lift weights your pumps arent as great as they were when you had carbs. Guess what you are burning into whenyou are in the gym. Alot of muscle. You are flat too. HUH?
I bet you are retaining a bit of water. Okay now to my advice...
What happens is when you have barley or no carbs your muscle cells have nothing to fill up with, so much of the water you drink is being stored to lubricated and try to fill up the muscle( water retention). When you have carbs your muscle cell fill up with carbs and the water you drink is being flushed out. Not only will your metabolism boost but you will be full without water retention.

Add a 1 cup of carbs to every meal. Not junk carbs either like for instance Garnet yams(mashed) or oatmeal(measured dry), or brown rice(cooked).

Do this for two days. Your metabolism should go through the roof. You should continue to drop. Plus the you should notice the water renention is less. Good luck!! I hope you at least try my advice.
 
joey523006 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:30 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0 ©2007, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright
2002 - 2008 Anabolicminds.com