Ketogenic Diet + Prohormones?
- 09-22-2008, 09:55 AM
- 09-22-2008, 08:51 PM
OK..but you wont experience much in the way of gains..also depends on the ph..esp. one for cutting. i tried epi last year with a low-carb diet..got great results.
- 09-22-2008, 09:05 PM
epi halo, and Tren would be the best ones.
you wont gain much, but if you do the keto diet right, meaning not atkins style, and using only EFAs for your fat sources then you should be golden.
09-23-2008, 12:06 AM
not really lookin for gains in size/muscle, if anything i wanna maintain the mass i have put on, and if possible maintain the strength gains i have accumulated
the designer is there really to prevent/decrease muscle catabolism during the 4-6 week cut
why would i only use EFA's??
09-23-2008, 12:25 AM
Most of my fat comes from flesh(chicken, beef, pork, fish and game in that order) Fish Oil, Cod liver oil, CLA, butter and very little (Tbs/week) if any olive oil.
I don't like fats from plants (flax, borage, hemp, etc...) some research suggests but doesn't prove beyond doubt, that they do increase estrogen levels, I love boobs and vagina's, but not enough to want them on me.
09-23-2008, 08:04 AM
09-23-2008, 02:10 PM
EPI is the god prohorm for any cut diet
u wont pack on much muscle but it help u hold what u got tightly while the fat drops
09-23-2008, 03:23 PM
I used Epi a few months ago, over-maintenance and gained 9 pounds. I am planning a cutting cycle with Halodrol, not because I think it will cut me up, but I get lethargy and back pumps easy and cardio was difficult on Epi and Halodrol should be manageable per reports.
09-23-2008, 03:42 PM
i keep hearing trenadrol and increased temp and good recomp...
09-23-2008, 10:06 PM
10-08-2008, 01:30 AM
How about running steroids on a ketogenic diet? How effective would it be?
10-08-2008, 07:10 AM
10-08-2008, 07:54 AM
i think im gunna run h-drol, would i run it @ a higher dose than usual? u would think the higher the dose the less chance of muscle catabolism
10-08-2008, 08:51 AM
10-08-2008, 09:07 AM
10-08-2008, 09:29 AM
10-08-2008, 10:06 AM
10-08-2008, 10:07 AM
10-12-2008, 11:04 AM
my experience with designers = two cycles of m-drol (10,20,20) and (20,20,20), the back pumps and shins pumps were very much an issue, i couldn't run more than 20 minutes without stopping because of shin pumps. This was not much of an issue at the time though, since i was bulking.
Because im planning a cut, i'll be including a little bit of cardio, tabata, and circuit training
For this purpose i swayed a way from epistane and more towards h-drol, seems like more feedback has h-drol with less sides.
A lot of you guys are suggesting 5-6 week cycles of h-drol, I only plan on cutting for about 4 weeks.
Would it make since to consider epistane for a 4-week cycle? I guess I could be conservative with the daily dosage. And based on my previous experience and specs. how should i run this?
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