[MattRoeske]

I'm thinking of starting one of the two for a cutting up before halloween which one, have you guys tried, and which would you recommend?

Meltdown is

120 Bioliquid Capsules
Supplement Facts
Serving Size3Capsules
Servings Per Container40
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Fat Catabolizor™ & β-3 Potentiator 317mg **
Caffeine Anhydrous **
M_TTA (Methyl Tetradecylthioacetic Acid) **
Yerba Mate Extract **
lipolytic Trigger™ **
3'-5'-CAMP (3'-5'-Cyclic Adenosine Monophosphate) **
Super Synephrine™ β-3 Activator™ 20mg **
Methyl-Synephrine HCL **
Iphoric® Potent Methyl β-3 PEA Matrix 138mg **
R-Beta Methoxyphenylethylamine **
N-Methyl-Beta-Phenylethylamine **
NorEpiphex™ α2-Andrenergic Blockade Complex 9mg **
11-Hydroxy Yohimbine **
Yohimbine HCL **
Alpha-Yohimbine **
NorEpiphex™ M-MAOxidizor-I™ 20mg **
Methyl-Hordenine HCL **


And Redline is

120 Gel Caps
Supplement Facts
Serving Size3Gel Caps
Servings Per Container40
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Calories 9
Total Carbohydrate 1g 0%
Sugars 0g 0%
Total Fat 0.5g 2%
Saturated Fat 0g 0**
Unsaturated Fat 0g 0%
Proprietary Blend 637mg **
Caffeine Citrate **
Caffeine Anhydrous **
Evoburn™(Pure Evodiamine) **
N-Acetyl L-Tyrosine **
Guggulsterone E&Z **
Yerba Mate **
Green Tea **
5-Hydroxy-L-Tryptophan **
Vinpocetine **
Yohimbine HCL **

[Growth Junkie]

Used Redline as pre workout stim. Worked well and i have a high tolerance for stims.
Haven't tried Meltdown but itcertainly looks promising.

[methusaleh]

As I see it, you can run both as each one works in a different way. But if you want my $.02........

I've used Redline, both caps and drinks, extensively. Personally I like it more as an energy source than something for cutting. It just does not seem to have the right combination of ingredients to help me much in a cut. I prefer LR or the old Venom for a cutting stim.

Just finished my second bottle of Meltdown. I'd have to say that while it gives good mental clarity, I would not call it a stim, thus I have used it in conjunction with LR and have seen no adverse effects. Personally the past 2 months have been my first experience cutting with Meltdown, and I've tried just about every supplement that's come out in the past 15 years or so, and overall my verdict is there are better things out there, especially at VPX prices. I feel that Meltdown did not do much for me, and I tried running triple doses most of the time. I did not use DCP and used Meltdown instead, and I must say that the results were more noticeable (visually and on the scale) running DCP earlier this year.

But....as they say...YMMV!

[MattRoeske]

Thnx guys.