[Fear]

Hi guys, first post here. I have been on a cut ever since I've been back from vacation about three weeks ago, and do hardcore cardio everyday and weights to keep my lean muscle mass every other day. I've made some progress so far, but every few days of balanced eating and very hard work, I let my progress slip late at night, usually when I'm really stoned. I start getting the munchies really bad, and feel like I need to make up for all those lost calories depleted from my body. Is the weight gain from this usually weekly binge really drastic? or do you think I'll actually be able to lose fat in the long run. Any tips or comments are appreciated.

About me: 5'10, 165 lbs, 15% bodyfat

[Chub]

Are you drinking a lot of alcohol too? That'll definitely set you back. A cheat day once a week isn't going to do that much harm, maybe more harm though if its late at night.

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[Condition1]

Nothing wrong with the Ganja. However, it's a huge progress stopper for me. I treat it like donuts, for me personally it has no place in my diet for my goals.

Example, I was hitting the bong for a couple of weeks and had major munchies. Cardio fell off a bit, and I put on 10-15 lbs. I'm sure they weren't of muscle. (fortunately I got my **** together and cut that nasty fat off in no time, easy come easy go)

To me personally, binge eating is a huge set-back. I put on 2 lbs if I stare at a maple bar for too long.

You may be in the same boat as me, it's all in knowing yoru body is. Carb cycling has really put my diet in check, it's hard to cheat when you know you're going to be having pizza and pasta on saturday I feel that we may be in the same boat.

[Plates1971]

How many kcals are you binging on? What is your metabolism like?? Here is a bit of advice not being a arse but stop smoking dope! Decide which is more important...... dope or your aspirations for a better lookin healthier body...... Just my 2 pesos!

[striking]

A cheat day depending on what your eating won't set you back that bad if the rest of the week you have a rather strict diet...

BUT... that dreaded but...

It IMO opens the door it more eating. If you let yourself slip for a whole day and lets say you order a big pizza YUM! then there is left overs that next day you would be suprised how much harder it is not to eat that! then one becomes two and you see where I am going...

[futurepilot]

Originally Posted by Plates1971

Here is a bit of advice not being a arse but stop smoking dope!

You said dope what is this the 1950's?

Just binge on good food, if all your friends are high too then freak them out and just sit there and eat a pound of ground beef, or a whole roasted chicken, guarantee they will remember that for a while.

[striking]

HAHA! that would be too funny!
"hey man what ya doin?" "munchin"

"is that a pound of ground beef?"

"yeahhhh ya want some?"

"wicked dude" lol

[Irish Cannon]

Treat smoking like part of a cheat meal. Plan your cheat meals out, smoke before if you want, but don't do it often. Have a moderate cheat meal once a week, and maybe a more indulging cheat meal with some ganja every other week.

[imprezivr6]

It really depends. It can hinder your progress, but as said "binge eating" can actually assist progress, when done at the right times.

You really need to get your diet straight, and adhere to it.

I binge eat every Saturday, on "refeeds" and stay leaning out. But my diet is dialed in, and the re-feeds are an integral part of it.

Breakfast(also had 100g waxy maize in Gatorade and some Mike & Ikes) 6 more meals to go...

[Highlanda01602]

As Impreziv wrote, refeeds can be largely beneficial to your diet goals. There has been a long standing debate on leptin levels benefitting from a large meal consisting of exactly what you diet against. "Shock treatment" so to speak, and signals your body to keep that metabolism churning high. This is not to mention the psychological benefit of refeeding/having a cheat meal.

As mentioned several times, don't make it a random occurance. If it's random, you're not taking control of your diet... a must if you want to reach your goals.

[Irish Cannon]

Agree with last two posts. Set refeed meals are highly beneficial.

[Jet]

Could one of you outline your refeeds? IC, I saw you mention a pie and some pasta in your log. How many extra cals are you taking in? Are you targeting mostly carbs, or sugars as well? Do you feel refeeds are better on an off day, or after your final day of training for the week?

[Irish Cannon]

Originally Posted by Jet

Could one of you outline your refeeds? IC, I saw you mention a pie and some pasta in your log. How many extra cals are you taking in? Are you targeting mostly carbs, or sugars as well? Do you feel refeeds are better on an off day, or after your final day of training for the week?

I try to stay away from sugar at all costs. My refeeds focus primarily on carbohydrates, and I always try to get in whole grains for my carb sources. I start my refeed on Friday, post-workout, and continue to eat carbohydrates through Saturday evening. Saturday and Sunday are my two days off; however, I will occasionaly do cardio on Sunday if I'm feeling up to it, but it's not necessary.

[Jet]

Originally Posted by Irish Cannon

I try to stay away from sugar at all costs. My refeeds focus primarily on carbohydrates, and I always try to get in whole grains for my carb sources. I start my refeed on Friday, post-workout, and continue to eat carbohydrates through Saturday evening. Saturday and Sunday are my two days off; however, I will occasionaly do cardio on Sunday if I'm feeling up to it, but it's not necessary.

Sounds good, thanks. I may start doing this One last question though; how many extra carbs are you trying to take in during this period?

[imprezivr6]

I hit up sugar like it was my best friend..lol I eat pancakes with syrup, gummy candies(sweedish fish, sour patch kids, mike & ike), fruity pebbles, rice krispy treats..

Also take in a good deal of low/moderate GI carbs like pasta, pizza with low fat cheese, rice, etc.

I really just keep fat extremely low.

I am usually sitting at around 800-1k carbs on a saturday re-feed.