How far does binge eating set you back?
- 08-28-2008, 04:02 AM
How far does binge eating set you back?
Hi guys, first post here. I have been on a cut ever since I've been back from vacation about three weeks ago, and do hardcore cardio everyday and weights to keep my lean muscle mass every other day. I've made some progress so far, but every few days of balanced eating and very hard work, I let my progress slip late at night, usually when I'm really stoned. I start getting the munchies really bad, and feel like I need to make up for all those lost calories depleted from my body. Is the weight gain from this usually weekly binge really drastic? or do you think I'll actually be able to lose fat in the long run. Any tips or comments are appreciated.
About me: 5'10, 165 lbs, 15% bodyfat
- 08-28-2008, 04:26 AM
Are you drinking a lot of alcohol too? That'll definitely set you back. A cheat day once a week isn't going to do that much harm, maybe more harm though if its late at night.
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08-30-2008, 01:44 AM
Nothing wrong with the Ganja. However, it's a huge progress stopper for me. I treat it like donuts, for me personally it has no place in my diet for my goals.
Example, I was hitting the bong for a couple of weeks and had major munchies. Cardio fell off a bit, and I put on 10-15 lbs. I'm sure they weren't of muscle. (fortunately I got my **** together and cut that nasty fat off in no time, easy come easy go)
To me personally, binge eating is a huge set-back. I put on 2 lbs if I stare at a maple bar for too long.
You may be in the same boat as me, it's all in knowing yoru body is. Carb cycling has really put my diet in check, it's hard to cheat when you know you're going to be having pizza and pasta on saturday I feel that we may be in the same boat.
08-30-2008, 02:12 AM
How many kcals are you binging on? What is your metabolism like?? Here is a bit of advice not being a arse but stop smoking dope! Decide which is more important...... dope or your aspirations for a better lookin healthier body...... Just my 2 pesos!
08-30-2008, 11:31 AM
A cheat day depending on what your eating won't set you back that bad if the rest of the week you have a rather strict diet...
BUT... that dreaded but...
It IMO opens the door it more eating. If you let yourself slip for a whole day and lets say you order a big pizza YUM! then there is left overs that next day you would be suprised how much harder it is not to eat that! then one becomes two and you see where I am going...
08-30-2008, 11:35 AM
08-30-2008, 11:49 AM
HAHA! that would be too funny!
"hey man what ya doin?" "munchin"
"is that a pound of ground beef?"
"yeahhhh ya want some?"
"wicked dude" lol
08-30-2008, 12:01 PM
Treat smoking like part of a cheat meal. Plan your cheat meals out, smoke before if you want, but don't do it often. Have a moderate cheat meal once a week, and maybe a more indulging cheat meal with some ganja every other week.
08-30-2008, 01:12 PM
It really depends. It can hinder your progress, but as said "binge eating" can actually assist progress, when done at the right times.
You really need to get your diet straight, and adhere to it.
I binge eat every Saturday, on "refeeds" and stay leaning out. But my diet is dialed in, and the re-feeds are an integral part of it.
Breakfast(also had 100g waxy maize in Gatorade and some Mike & Ikes) 6 more meals to go...
08-30-2008, 01:27 PM
As Impreziv wrote, refeeds can be largely beneficial to your diet goals. There has been a long standing debate on leptin levels benefitting from a large meal consisting of exactly what you diet against. "Shock treatment" so to speak, and signals your body to keep that metabolism churning high. This is not to mention the psychological benefit of refeeding/having a cheat meal.
As mentioned several times, don't make it a random occurance. If it's random, you're not taking control of your diet... a must if you want to reach your goals.
08-30-2008, 01:37 PM
08-30-2008, 02:30 PM
Could one of you outline your refeeds? IC, I saw you mention a pie and some pasta in your log. How many extra cals are you taking in? Are you targeting mostly carbs, or sugars as well? Do you feel refeeds are better on an off day, or after your final day of training for the week?
08-30-2008, 04:23 PM
08-30-2008, 08:19 PM
08-30-2008, 08:42 PM
I hit up sugar like it was my best friend..lol I eat pancakes with syrup, gummy candies(sweedish fish, sour patch kids, mike & ike), fruity pebbles, rice krispy treats..
Also take in a good deal of low/moderate GI carbs like pasta, pizza with low fat cheese, rice, etc.
I really just keep fat extremely low.
I am usually sitting at around 800-1k carbs on a saturday re-feed.
08-30-2008, 08:57 PM
hahahahaI start getting the munchies really bad, and feel like I need to make up for all those lost calories depleted from my body.
You don't need no cheat meal or a refeed. You're three weeks into a diet and have not gone more than two or three days without going on a stoner binge.
That's called not being on a diet.
Put down the bong and get some self control.
08-30-2008, 09:19 PM
08-30-2008, 09:20 PM
It appears to be that you are fairly new to dieting, at least trying to diet on a consistant manner. Everyone starts sometime. Starting off is always the hardest part, and the quickest way to get someone to drop the whole thing is to rule out foods (or cheat meals). This is why I think it is in order for you to allow yourself the foods you enjoy..... in moderation, and planned out.
I think you'd be suprised how simple it is to put off "cravings" with the knowledge that you can, and will, eat that food in just a few days. It has worked for me, and for thousands of others who do this on a regular basis.
08-30-2008, 09:30 PM
"Refeed" has been the term used as a way of kicking the metabolism back into high gear after severly limiting carbohydrates. Carb cycling diets utilize these meals, and must for effective weight loss (stalling becomes the case otherwise).
On a lean bulk, I'm assuming that you are maintaining a healthy ratio of all three macronutrients? If that's the case, a refeed will not be of any real benefit, strictly in terms of fat loss. The "shock" a carb cycler gets from the 300 someodd grams of CHO is unique to his or her diet... won't happen in a diet sufficient with carbohydrate.
With that said, a cheat meal is good to go, if that is what you desire. No shame in that, 99% of dieters do so to stay sane and helps to focus on the next 6 or so days of meals. You won't see much fat gain, if any at all, with a cheat meal 1x week IMO, regardless of what you choose to splurge on.
08-30-2008, 09:41 PM
08-30-2008, 09:59 PM
08-30-2008, 10:04 PM
Going hypocaloric brings the leptin-debate back into thought again, which may prove to be beneficial.....
08-30-2008, 10:11 PM
I used to go too light on the re-feeds and by Monday i was flat again.
I start the day with lots of higher GI carbs, then as it progresses i taper it to more lower GI carbs.. Similar to what DUCHANE recommends, but all in one day, rather then 2.
But like said above, this is worked into my diet, and a much needed part of it being that i dont consume carbs Sun-fri.
09-06-2008, 12:10 AM
A binge completely ruins your results! Half a pizza is 2181 calories and you need to be in a 7700 calories a week deficit to lose 1 kg or 2.2 pounds!
Cardio hardly helps either because 15 minutes on a treadmill at 14 kmh is only equal to 250 calories or two slices of buttered bread!
Additionally cheating breaks your discipline and maintaining discipline is the most important part of dieting!
Just don't cheat because small amounts of food add up to significant amounts of weight.
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