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Old 08-25-2008, 02:09 AM   #1
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so i saw a food plan for a CKD diet that composed of bacon everyday in the morning?

is that healthy?

i have not ate bacon in years! if this is fine i cant wait!
 
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Old 08-25-2008, 05:05 AM   #2
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i have read up about this, have herd it works well it can be really shitty at first tho!! from what i have seen the bacon should be fine but i would continue reading about this as the are a few veriations kickin around forums!!!

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I see it as a good source of fat and a bit of protein in the morning. With a few whole eggs it sets me up well ham and so on for a good breakfast with decent kcal intake. I don't eat a ton of it maybe 3-4 strips. http://www.thecaloriecounter.com/Foo...04/3/Food.aspx

Link to Nitrition Fact for strip of Bacon.
 
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You're probably better off switching the bacon for something else. It's usually pretty high in salt (bad for your heart/blood pressure/etc), plus lots of processed meats contain preservatives that have recently been linked to bowel cancer.

Try eggs (cheese omlettes?), steaks, chops or any other unprocessed meats. Get as much fish oil (from small fish that haven't had the chance to consume too much PCBs/heavy metals) in you as possible.

Of course, having bacon once or twice a week isn't going to kill you but I would go a bit easy on it if you're planning on staying healthy in the long run.
 
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meat in mourning is bad, its your most important meal. you need carbs to set you up for the rest of the day e.g wheeties with strawberrys
 
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meat in mourning is bad, its your most important meal. you need carbs to set you up for the rest of the day e.g wheeties with strawberrys
Carbs are what they're trying to avoid on this diet.
 



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Once your body starts burning Ketons for energy those carbs i nthe morning don't seem nearly as important. I actually feel great all day only tiem I get really tired is after running but that is pretty normal with or without carbs
 
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avoid carbs on a diet ? eating meat is not going to make you loose weight it takes alot of energy to digest which you could be using to burn fat.
 
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Read up on the CKD diets or TKD and you will understand this much better. This is not atkins but similar and that diet (just eating meat) actually works as well but this is as you will see diffrent from that. It does in fact work and works well at burning away fat along with keeping your muscle mass for the most part.

When you take in less then 30ish carbs a day your body is forced to use fat as an energy source (ketones) at this point the fat you take in is used for fuel along with stored body fat and protein for muscle repair. You havecarb up days generally on the weekends last between 6-48 hours that refuel your muscles. You will burn these throughout the week and I will say that this diet does in fact work you must still watch what you eat as with every diet. Not for everyone but once you make it through the first week and your body adjusts it's fuel source it is nice and easy.
 
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i don't agree ! your body needs carbs ! you do not have to put your body through that to loose weight i seem to do it fine at 30/30/40 and im maintaining. unless your going on stage i highly recommend you do not do that. you need carbs every day.
 
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To each his own the true anwser is your body does not need carbs to live. The brain is the only organ that still needs some carbs( in the form of glycogen) it function properly. When you enter the state of ketosis fat is used for organs and all basic body functions. It can in fact run on fat stores this starvation(just your bodies fat) would of course be bad but when your body is actively burning it as a fuel source (IE fat in your diet and body) there is nothing wrong with that. It is greatly blown up the amount of carbs you need on a daily basis.

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Just a few posts in the first page worth reading plenty of info on the internet. As I have said you still take in a small amount of carbs a day but generally very little. It does not put your body through horrible rigors or pains it just stops using carbs as the primary source of energy.
 
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A mistake that alot of people make is eating enough carbs to stay out of ketosis BUT not eating enough carbs to make the brain function properly. This is different for EVERY person, but in general it is said that the brain needs 100g of carbs to function properly. If you are in ketosis, your body will be burning ketone bodies for energy, and that includes supplying energy to all the vital organs including the brain. So, in a state of ketosis the body does NOT need ANY carbs in order to maintain normal function. It is important to make sure that you find out for YOUR body the maximal amount of carbs you can take and still be in ketosis. It is also important to find out how diet sodas and other beverages with citric acid affect you. They tend to bring some people out of ketosis while ahving no effect on others. All of these things are important considerations when trying to develop an individual diet plan.
 
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Im proof that CKD works. Ive lost 21lbs in 2 months on diet alone. and begining of august got the money to start at the gym again. and im in even better shape and havent lost any strength.

You can eat bacon. i just wouldnt say every day. Chicken/Tuna/Ground Beef/Steak/Ground Turkey/Eggs/Cheese/Natty PB/Whey Protein

for veggies..Celery with natty pb bomb. broccoli. green peppers. i love sauted onions with evoo just only have half an onion tho.

Thats basically all i eat. and do a carb up on friday after WO until Sat Night.
 



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steak and eggs, the breakfast of champions, haha
 
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avenue red im not sure if you want to be losing weight your 150 pounds. i think you better read up on this diet i just did and it says 30g of carbs a day. I have done similar diets and end up with gastro and diarrhea. If you can put this much disapline into a diet , then you should be able to loose weight on just a low cal diet. eat less !

and im presumming you guys dont cycle.I go for a 5 km run 3 times a week and i can eat anything i want. when i start my cycle in a month it will be meat 3 times a day. but then i will be dropping my cardio down to about 3km 2 times a week. like i said unless your going on stage i wouldn't recommend it. my 2c.
 
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I can easily see where this can cause problems for people many due ot the lack of fibers in the diet or in some cases vitamins. I would suggest that as always take a multi and find decent foods for this diet with fiber I prefer peanuts.

The truth is that your not entirely at this huge lack of foods to eat unlike say atkins where it is low carb low fat food this one allows you the fat and protein while pointing you in the direction of meat it will at least taste half decent. Overall once your body enters ketosis your energy levels are normal.

We do end up eating less as you would guess with lack of carbs it drops down the overall calorie intake during the day but it makes it much easier to stay below that cutting intake level and still be full.

I wouldn't bother doing a cycle while cutting anyways I know some like to do it but I see it as a waste. While I still run and try to gain the best lean bulk as possible on cycle there is no way I would run this diet during it mainly due ot the lack of calories and the restriction it places on the amount of gym time I have.

Either way you look at it this diet does work and while any diet that cuts down calorie intake (eating less) will work I feel that this helps not only maintain muscle mass but burns off the extra fat.
 
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avenue red im not sure if you want to be losing weight your 150 pounds. i think you better read up on this diet i just did and it says 30g of carbs a day. I have done similar diets and end up with gastro and diarrhea. If you can put this much disapline into a diet , then you should be able to loose weight on just a low cal diet. eat less !

and im presumming you guys dont cycle.I go for a 5 km run 3 times a week and i can eat anything i want. when i start my cycle in a month it will be meat 3 times a day. but then i will be dropping my cardio down to about 3km 2 times a week. like i said unless your going on stage i wouldn't recommend it. my 2c.
Don't underestimate a lean mean 5' 8" 155 lbs

Genetics has a lot to do with how much cardio will let you get away with. If you are running 5km 3X per week and eating whatever you want, i've got nothing but love and envy for you.

However, that is child's play. I was doing this: Mon 7 miles, tues. 5 miles, wed. 7 miles, thurs 5 miles. Sat. 4 miles. The first 3 miles during the week were ran under 19:20 minutes.

I was trying to cut down my 3 mile run time, but the point is even on this extreme cardio routine I couldn't get away with eating whatever the hell I wanted.
 



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still don't agree...........carbs build muscle, we need carbs full stop. Eat a noramal healthy diet, just eat less. You can loose weight this way its proven. balance is the key.
 
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