You make good points. There has to be at least 200mg caff in roxy per cap. And leviathan has some o the same ing as heat but lists caffeine first in 421mg prop blend per 2 caps, so 2 caps of leviathan has to have at least 75-100mg caff. I just have the dull headaches and cloudiness associated with coming off stims even though I'm not really off... Just a stim junkieOriginally Posted by strategicmovebut i have been on this stack since sat and noticed extreme Leaning in midsection and chest/shoulders... So I am going to stick with it. I am gonna up recreate to 4 a day as of today. So the bottle will last me a little over 3 weeks. I used recreate years ago with awesome results... But my stim tolerance was not so high then. Awesome product none the less... Will incorporate through low or non stim runs in the future for sure.


but i have been on this stack since sat and noticed extreme Leaning in midsection and chest/shoulders... So I am going to stick with it. I am gonna up recreate to 4 a day as of today. So the bottle will last me a little over 3 weeks. I used recreate years ago with awesome results... But my stim tolerance was not so high then. Awesome product none the less... Will incorporate through low or non stim runs in the future for sure. 






