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L-Dopa, Anabolic Pump (and/or P-slin) and Kwik karb, are they stackable ?

pocketboy

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Hello there,

Listen, I read than HGH release (come from Bulk 1-carboxy-2-amino-3-pyrobenzol (3,4 diol), one of the two POWERFULL component but without the Testosterone raise (I don't want this)) have an impact on insulin, but do it decrease or increase it ?

I saw Anabolic Pump (and/or P-Slin) have an impact too, but same question, do it decrease or increase ?


So, Are anabolic pump ((and/or P-Slin), HGH and Kwik karb a very good stack or is it any "bad" interaction between the three ?

I also read than Anabolic Pump((and/or P-Slin)) (and HGH) enhance fat loss, but is it a risk to burn my cheeks (that are made of fat) ?


I'm ectomorphique, and I don't have many fat at all,but I do bodybuilding only for the physical appareance (want big volume :d), so what's best for me, P-slin or Anabolic Pump ?
 
P-Slin before your preworkout meal containg ~100g carbs and AP before other meals containing ~50g carbs if you can afford both. If not, then go with the P-Slin but be sure and get enough carbs in. Perhaps posting up your diet for us will allow us to help with your goals as these products assume a dialed in diet is in place.

Kwik Karb is fine and many report stellar results. Not my thing personally as I am a "whole foods as much as possible" guy. :)
Definitly no "bad reaction" between them.

The PowerFull has intrinsic anabolic properties aside from any raise in natural testosterone but you beg the question: why don't you want elevated test levels? Both PF & 1-carboxy will raise HGH as long as you dose without carbs. Waiting an hour after eating will do the trick there.

These products imrove insulin sensitivity which will allow for less insulin to be released over time. That is a good thing and will help keep blood sugar at more of a constant with less spikes.

As for fat loss, that is going to be dependant upon diet. They can enhance fatloss in a caloric deficit and minimize fat gain in a surplus but there is no magic in them that will make all your fat just burn away.
 
Thanks for your answer mate !

But I didn't specify, I'm not english at all, so please, if possible, answer with a very basic english...

My philosophie is : I take the word "supplement" for is very whole sense. I mean I eat as much as I can, and then, I take my supplement.

But I don't have any "everyday" diet, I eat massive and healthy varied foods, I didn't have any "ritual".

About the P-slin and Anabolic Pump carbs needed, I think that Kwik Karb do the trick. If I have to take 100g carbs for P-slin, so I'll eat Kellogg's and take 100g of Kwik karb, is it good ?

But I don't know yet if I'll stack Anabolic Pump and P-slin, and if not, what I'll choose, they have both pros and cons.


About HGH and Testosterone, my favorite questions lol :
Do you know this teenagers ennemy called ACNE ?
Yes ! So, I will explains you. I never had much acne, but, I did a very strong treatment to prevent it (Accutane) because pimples makes me crazy... And it's proved (and my dermatologist said that too) any raises of testosterone increase acne, so I ban the testosterone enhancement.

But in the other hand, I LOVE HGH benefits, it increase lean muscle mass (in which scales please ?), skin tone (my favorite !!!!) and sleep (I really have trouble to sleep everynight). But the 1-carboxy, did increase testo levels ? or it's just increase HGH level ?
Is it strong enought to see result on muscle, skin, and sleep ?

Both PF & 1-carboxy will raise HGH as long as you dose without carbs
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I read that a dose it's 1/3 tsp, does it mean "1 or 2 or 3 tsp" or "1 divided 3 tsp" ?

And it's wrote the best it's 3 doses, on empty stomach, so I thought that : 1 before working out and 2 before sleep. Is it good ?

But the problem is : before working out, I won't have empty stomach (almost all the product I'm considering for my stack (there are many)) are pre WO.... How can I do

And before sleep, I'm considering "POSEIDON" (nimbus nutrition), can I mix 1-carboxy with poseidon without any impact on effectiveness ?
 
Will you stick me all my life or will you live me alone a second ?

I appreciate all your help, but what, I changed my age ONLY 1 time to add only a few months... what's the big deal with it hum ?

So if you WON'T answer my question, fine, I'll do without it, but don't flood my thread please, I respect you, and I don't bother anybody ...

As far as I know, I didn't insult anybody, I repeat, I just ONE TIME add a few month (very few). So, if you have the desire to bother somebody, check all the thread were somebody insults the other, and let those who wants answer my questions.

thanks !

I hope you'll understand
 
pocketboy said:
Thanks for your answer mate !

But I didn't specify, I'm not english at all, so please, if possible, answer with a very basic english...

My philosophie is : I take the word "supplement" for is very whole sense. I mean I eat as much as I can, and then, I take my supplement.

But I don't have any "everyday" diet, I eat massive and healthy varied foods, I didn't have any "ritual".

About the P-slin and Anabolic Pump carbs needed, I think that Kwik Karb do the trick. If I have to take 100g carbs for P-slin, so I'll eat Kellogg's and take 100g of Kwik karb, is it good ?

Should be fine. I would do 50g oats & 50g Kwik K

But I don't know yet if I'll stack Anabolic Pump and P-slin, and if not, what I'll choose, they have both pros and cons.


About HGH and Testosterone, my favorite questions lol :
Do you know this teenagers ennemy called ACNE ?
Yes ! So, I will explains you. I never had much acne, but, I did a very strong treatment to prevent it (Accutane) because pimples makes me crazy... And it's proved (and my dermatologist said that too) any raises of testosterone increase acne, so I ban the testosterone enhancement.

But in the other hand, I LOVE HGH benefits, it increase lean muscle mass (in which scales please ?), skin tone (my favorite !!!!) and sleep (I really have trouble to sleep everynight). But the 1-carboxy, did increase testo levels ? or it's just increase HGH level ? Just HGH
Is it strong enought to see result on muscle, skin, and sleep ?

Not really a "mass builder" but you will certainly get great sleep and perhaps nicer skin. I get both.

I read that a dose it's 1/3 tsp, does it mean "1 or 2 or 3 tsp" or "1 divided 3 tsp" ?

One third of one teaspoon. 1 divided tsp.

And it's wrote the best it's 3 doses, on empty stomach, so I thought that : 1 before working out and 2 before sleep. Is it good ?

One in the morning, preworkout and before sleep.

But the problem is : before working out, I won't have empty stomach (almost all the product I'm considering for my stack (there are many)) are pre WO.... How can I do

Eat preworkout meal, wait an hour and dose right before working out. You shouldn't be working out on a full stomach anyway. Give it some time to digest. It will not help your workout sitting in your gut.

And before sleep, I'm considering "POSEIDON" (nimbus nutrition), can I mix 1-carboxy with poseidon without any impact on effectiveness ?
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They are great together. Poseidon is one of my favorites.
 
Buddy, you need to understand that messing with your growth hormone levels at a young age is not a good idea.

I dont see why you are so stubborn about this, when you come in asking for advice and when someone (well actually multiple people) gives you something you don't want to hear, you lash out.
 
How can I divide 1 tsp in 3 ... ?

For my pre-WO i'm considering :

Anabolic pump (or/and P-slin)

15 min later : Ragnarok + Kwik Karb


And a "during" post workout :
GlycerGrow
Xtend

Imagine I'll train on 5:00 pm.

So, when can I take the 1-carboxy ?

thnaks
 
pocketboy said:
How can I divide 1 tsp in 3 ... ?

For my pre-WO i'm considering :

Anabolic pump (or/and P-slin)

15 min later : Ragnarok + Kwik Karb


And a "during" post workout :
GlycerGrow
Xtend

Imagine I'll train on 5:00 pm.

So, when can I take the 1-carboxy ?

thnaks
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they make measuring units in 1/3 tablespoons...most kitchens have them, might take a look around and you might find one.
 
Dear PumpIron,

Because all those who answer me tell me : take powerFull it's a great product.

Yes, I know, but I don't want the "Test booster" like I said.


But when I said : "If I take the 1-carboxy"
they answer "no" etc.

I think they didn't understand that's just a sort of "PowerFull" which will be better for me (because it's without the "testo booster)

I REALLY understand it's not a good idea to play with my hormone, but I'm sure that they think, when I'm talking about HGH, that I'll inject me a strong dose.
But is not that, I'm not a jackass, it's like the "steroid thing", I didn't want to take it, I wanted just information because more than other thing, I'm curious and I really want to know EVERYTHING before considering something (and for my knowledge overall).

So, the 1-carboxy isn't dangerous, because doesn't inhibt's my own secretion, it's just a booster. Like tribulus for testosterone.

I think you won't disagree if I'm telling you "I'm a young adult, and I want to take tribulus".
So, understand just it's the same but for HGH.


If I feel any side effect, I'll quite 1-carboxy.

Health it's most important, but I must try before made my opinion.

So, what do you think about that ? Am I right ?
 
Is it "tsp" = table spoon, or tea spoon ?
Is it the same ?

How can I afford this "table spoon unit measuring" if I don't have one ?

thanks
 
pocketboy said:
Dear PumpIron,

Because all those who answer me tell me : take powerFull it's a great product.

Yes, I know, but I don't want the "Test booster" like I said.


But when I said : "If I take the 1-carboxy"
they answer "no" etc.

I think they didn't understand that's just a sort of "PowerFull" which will be better for me (because it's without the "testo booster)

I REALLY understand it's not a good idea to play with my hormone, but I'm sure that they think, when I'm talking about HGH, that I'll inject me a strong dose.
But is not that, I'm not a jackass, it's like the "steroid thing", I didn't want to take it, I wanted just information because more than other thing, I'm curious and I really want to know EVERYTHING before considering something (and for my knowledge overall).

So, the 1-carboxy isn't dangerous, because doesn't inhibt's my own secretion, it's just a booster. Like tribulus for testosterone.

I think you won't disagree if I'm telling you "I'm a young adult, and I want to take tribulus".
So, understand just it's the same but for HGH.


If I feel any side effect, I'll quite 1-carboxy.

Health it's most important, but I must try before made my opinion.

So, what do you think about that ? Am I right ?
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first of all powerfull is awesome and secondly,
I wouldnt really worry about the test levels causing acne it's not like a steroid that will shoot your test levels through the roof, just my .02
 
PumpingIron said:
Buddy, you need to understand that messing with your growth hormone levels at a young age is not a good idea.

I dont see why you are so stubborn about this, when you come in asking for advice and when someone (well actually multiple people) gives you something you don't want to hear, you lash out.
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My god, this dude is INCREDIBLY stubborn. I don't get it. We're trying to help you! You've lied about your age several times on this forum, so we can only assume that you're under 21. We tell you that messing with your hormones at that age is DANGEROUS and you keep posting new questions. You're just preying off of people who see the age in your profile and assume it's legitimate. For the record people, it's not. Do a search and read his other posts. He's 19.

And language barrier or not, it's obvious from your posts that you are really confused about what you're doing and that you are inexperienced. Even if you were over 21, I would recommend that you lift and eat like crazy for a couple more years before introducing all this stuff that manipulates your hormone levels.

I guess if you're really that determined to dive off the cliff, help yourself. I hope you don't permanently F yourself up in the process kid.
 
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We ARE still talking about USPLabs products in this thread right? F yourself up with those? Lets not confuse AAS with our products. Thanks.
 
PumpingIron said:
Ecto, I'd take back that last part...I believe in darwinism and this could be a prime example.
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I was trying to be nice! :lol: This kid thinks we've been following him around, flaming him because we're d*cks or because we don't want him to have the knowledge he seeks.

Whatever. Darwin yourself into oblivion kid!
 
bpmartyr said:
We ARE still talking about USPLabs products in this thread right? F yourself up with those? Lets not confuse anabolic steroids with our products. Thanks.
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PoweFull is promoted, at least partially, as a GH and test booster right? Would you recommend that to a 19 y/o?
 
bpmartyr said:
We ARE still talking about USPLabs products in this thread right? F yourself up with those? Lets not confuse anabolic steroids with our products. Thanks.
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BP, I'm trying to make two points here.

1. If you come asking questions about something, and changing your story because you aren't getting the responses you want, then you don't deserve any help.

2. Messing with hormone levels at an age when they are not truly developed, whether it be through a common supplement like PF, or something more extreme like A A S, you are setting yourself up for harm. The hormonal functions of the body have not fully developed and therefore should not be messed with.

...and in the end, I've read over a few of this kid's posts and you can tell that he needs to concentrate on diet and training before he even begins to looks at these types of supplements.
 
EctoPower said:
PoweFull is promoted, at least partially, as a GH and test booster right? Would you recommend that to a 19 y/o?
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I am just trying to keep perspective for anyone else who is reading this thread. The fact that I wouldn't recommend them to younger adults is inconsequential. They will not "F" you up, they are just not needed at a time when natural hormones are already at their peak. Taking PowerFull is by no means tantamount to injecting test and HGH. That being said, at 19, I wouldn't take it.

Just to be clear: "I do not recommend the use of PowerFull to those under the age of 21". This is also clearly stated on the bottle sitting in front of me. :)
 
PumpingIron said:
BP, I'm trying to make two points here.

1. If you come asking questions about something, and changing your story because you aren't getting the responses you want, then you don't deserve any help.

2. Messing with hormone levels at an age when they are not truly developed, whether it be through a common supplement like PF, or something more extreme like A A S, you are setting yourself up for harm. The hormonal functions of the body have not fully developed and therefore should not be messed with.

...and in the end, I've read over a few of this kid's posts and you can tell that he needs to concentrate on diet and training before he even begins to looks at these types of supplements.
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I'm with you guys. As I stated to Ecto: Just trying to keep things in perspective. Our products are not Steroids. :)
 
Is like I said, it's just like a sort of "tribulus" but for HGH.

And so, you are telling me that for an 20years old guys, it's not dangerous, but I would enjoy the 100% of this product, but still have an impact, right ?
 
I'll explain my philosphy to all of those that think i'm stubborn.

I prefer asking 100 times the same question and had the opinion of 100 different person and then take my decision.

I'm not kind of guys who doesn't want to "consider" the opinion opposite of his.

I really "consider" your opinion, and if I ask again, it's just because it's discussed.

I'll explain a thing that will help you to "understand" my stubborness : Here in France, most of 80% of people will tell you "don't take creatine, it's a poison" blablablabla...
 
pocketboy said:
Is like I said, it's just like a sort of "tribulus" but for HGH.

And so, you are telling me that for an 20years old guys, it's not dangerous, but I would enjoy the 100% of this product, but still have an impact, right ?
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make it stop please!!!:frustrate
 
PumpingIron said:
BP, I'm trying to make two points here.

1. If you come asking questions about something, and changing your story because you aren't getting the responses you want, then you don't deserve any help.

2. Messing with hormone levels at an age when they are not truly developed, whether it be through a common supplement like PF, or something more extreme like A A S, you are setting yourself up for harm. The hormonal functions of the body have not fully developed and therefore should not be messed with.

...and in the end, I've read over a few of this kid's posts and you can tell that he needs to concentrate on diet and training before he even begins to looks at these types of supplements.
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PI hits it right on the head here. I can't say it any better.


I'm with you guys. As I stated to Ecto: Just trying to keep things in perspective. Our products are not Steroids.
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BP, I totally understand and I would never compare your products to steroids. Sorry if that wasn't clear. But this is why you guys have a min. age on the bottle. CYA! Because this French guy is just reckless.

By the way, I am a huge fan of Super Cissus Rx. Good stuff!
 
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