If you are talking about the bulk PowerFull that NutraPlanet has it is the old new formula...haha...if that makes any sense. Meaning that it is the same formula that is in the regular capped PowerFull, not the brand new stuff. The brand new formula isnt actually a new formula IIRC, its still 1-C and puresap, its just a stronger more concentrated extract. So basically the bulk stuff is 1-C and presap, its just gonna take higher doses than the new stuff. And i think i read a thread where USP said they didnt have plans atleast yet on releasing it in bulk. Or i could just be full of it,lol if thats the case im sure somebody will chime in! lol