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Old 02-23-2007, 10:12 PM   #1
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Anabolic Pump Interactions
Ok could we please list all know suppplements / substances that interact with AP causing it to perform less than possible.
so far i know that

Alpha lipoic acid

should not be taken while on AP. What else?

thanks for any help on this matter.
 
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Old 02-24-2007, 01:23 AM   #2
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Alpha lipoic acid is the sh!t.....na r ala.....love that stuff.......not if your doing AP tho
 


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Old 02-24-2007, 01:24 AM   #3
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I guess my response wasn't that helpfull....oh well..lol
 


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Take it easy on Ai's and serms, as estrogen effects Glut 4, so the glucose partioning effects will be weakened if estrogen is driven too low.
 
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Take it easy on Ai's and serms, as estrogen effects Glut 4, so the glucose partioning effects will be weakened if estrogen is driven too low.

AIs?
 
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Aromatase Inhibitors (e.g. ATD, Rebound Reloaded, formestane, etc.)
 
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AI and Insulin/Insulin Mimickers. I've still to read more into the SERMs issue before I can comment.
 


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thanks for the help guys.

can someone tell me what are some substances that are insulin mimickers?
 
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I guess this would make Cialabol a double bad choice to stack with AP? Since it has both insulin micking and estrogen lowering effects......BTW, I'm stacking AP/Cialabol right now. Hope it works out well.
 
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I guess this would make Cialabol a double bad choice to stack with AP? Since it has both insulin micking and estrogen lowering effects......BTW, I'm stacking AP/Cialabol right now. Hope it works out well.
yeah that sucks because I have some cialabol too

I am using an AI

so I notice that with Na-R-ALA, I have more pump than with AP

might be because of low GLUT-4 on which AP depends a lot

just my experience..
 
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thanks for the help guys.

can someone tell me what are some substances that are insulin mimickers?
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ALA is the main one that is in most Insulin Mimic supplements, I can't for the life of me remember the other types though.
 


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4-HI, inzitol, cinnamon are some others that I can think of.
 
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Take it easy on Ai's and serms, as estrogen effects Glut 4, so the glucose partioning effects will be weakened if estrogen is driven too low.
So taking AP along with JW would not be a smart choice?
 
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cinnamon. Darn, was taking AP 15 minutes before I would have my favorite cereal, Cinnamon Oat Crunch. I have it everyday. So I guess AP would not work very well with this huh?
 
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cinnamon. Darn, was taking AP 15 minutes before I would have my favorite cereal, Cinnamon Oat Crunch. I have it everyday. So I guess AP would not work very well with this huh?
There are a couple of types of cinnamon and only one of them actually impacts insulin. I have been using AP and having cinnamon with my oats and I am still having awesome results.
 
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