psychospic
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I am on my second week of PCT for a 3 week Superdrol cycle. I am running serm, NHA stack, Turkesterone and cissus and I just added creatin, aakg and GMS. Can I add the AP, or should I wait until I am done with PCT
Just got my AP and have a few questions.
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psychospic
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Should I drop the Creatine gluconate and AAKG so I can better assess/appreciate the pumps from AP?
psychospic
Member
Oh OK, cool, I feel like a kid with a new toy.
WhatsaRoid?
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CHAPS said:
I see, so thats why I'm cramping haha..*Drinks water* thanks chaps.
Rivet
Registered User
Oh yea the stuff loves water. I have to drink a lot of it. Even if I'm only using the "beta" version of AP. Always thirsty...
And your using Turksterone? Get ready for vascularity on top of the Vascularity. I thought the beta version of AP made me vascular until I added Turk to the mix, now after a decent workout my chest/shoulders and bi's are covered in a spider web of veins.
And your using Turksterone? Get ready for vascularity on top of the Vascularity. I thought the beta version of AP made me vascular until I added Turk to the mix, now after a decent workout my chest/shoulders and bi's are covered in a spider web of veins.
psychospic
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Rivet said:
OH MAN!!!! On day two now, get a funny feeling, a good feeling when I take this stuff then eat high carbs, like a quick rush.
colkurtz_spf
The horror
hamper19 said:
That's typical of what I've been eating. It probably depends on your goals.
I've been cutting. During my first five to six weeks I lost 7 pounds and picked up 4 pounds in lean body mass. My doc has a machine that breaks down total body composition. I'm finishing month two and I definitely look different. I've only dropped two more pounds, but I look more muscular and my pants are fitting much loser.
On wieght days I eat either a plain lowfat yogurt or 2% cottage cheese with nuts and fruit and a cup of oatmeal. I add one scopp of Muscle Milk to the oatmeal when I eat the yogurt.
Most of my carbs during the day are from fruits(low glycemic) and vegetables. I include a starch at dinner (preferably sweet potatoes).
I hope this helps.
Enigma76
Active member
To add to Colkurtz's response:
I noticed mainly a recomp effect, with my pants getting loser and my muscles being fuller. Typically, any amount of carbs, low or high GI, will cause my stomach to bloat. The more carbs, the more bloating. YG however staved off this problem; I rarely bloated from eating carbs, the only times I did (and it was mild) woudl be the last carb meal of the day.
I have not dosed any of the beta YG in a week because I do not want to explain to my parents/brother why I am parachuting yellow powder. It is too bad that pulling YG also was simultaneously accompanied by holiday eating/boozing, so I have no idea what going off of YG would do; I lost some vascularity and gained some size back in the waist, but it probably has more to do with the eating/boozing than the cessation of YG.
I would time the carbs appropriately; after working out, take in more carbs. AP should work, if I have this correct, by basically tricking muscle into thinking it is depleted of ATP stores; what this does is basically induce an environment for optimal glucose uptake into muscle. Thus, AP when dosed AFTER a workout should include even more carbs.
Really, it shoudl be a feeling-out process. For instance, one cap of AP and 30g of oats for you might be okay, but for someone else might cause them to become hypo and get a headache. Start small, figure out how many carbs/dose you need, and then you'll be set.
I noticed mainly a recomp effect, with my pants getting loser and my muscles being fuller. Typically, any amount of carbs, low or high GI, will cause my stomach to bloat. The more carbs, the more bloating. YG however staved off this problem; I rarely bloated from eating carbs, the only times I did (and it was mild) woudl be the last carb meal of the day.
I have not dosed any of the beta YG in a week because I do not want to explain to my parents/brother why I am parachuting yellow powder. It is too bad that pulling YG also was simultaneously accompanied by holiday eating/boozing, so I have no idea what going off of YG would do; I lost some vascularity and gained some size back in the waist, but it probably has more to do with the eating/boozing than the cessation of YG.
I would time the carbs appropriately; after working out, take in more carbs. AP should work, if I have this correct, by basically tricking muscle into thinking it is depleted of ATP stores; what this does is basically induce an environment for optimal glucose uptake into muscle. Thus, AP when dosed AFTER a workout should include even more carbs.
Really, it shoudl be a feeling-out process. For instance, one cap of AP and 30g of oats for you might be okay, but for someone else might cause them to become hypo and get a headache. Start small, figure out how many carbs/dose you need, and then you'll be set.
psychospic
Member
I thought I read somewhere that you should try to eat 60gm of carbs after your AP dose. Having to look for the carbs is making me realize how few carbs I was eating befor.
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
Enigma76 said:
Great explanation and post
I have actually reconfigured my post workout nutrition to include 72 grams of Carbohydrates, using 1 cup of steel oats, 1 cup of skim milk, and 1 scoop of isolate since employing AP; to date I have had no additional SAT storage, quite the opposite in fact.
I am enjoying AP so much because it seems to be acting as a catch-all, so to speak, in terms of muscular development; its PPAR Gamma 2 modulation in adipocytes is causing them to be metabolized into the bloodstream and oxidized, increasing strength and endurance, while at the same time creating a supra-permeable environment within the plasma membrane of muscle cells for glucose; giving your body increased reparative ability.
hamper19
The True Warrior is one who conquers oneself
ok..i think we hijacked the thread but for good cause..
anyway...is AP selective of high GI or low GI carbs? I mean i'm thinking no
but if i knew i was going to eat a hi gi carb meal..white bread, sweets etc and took an AP before...(especially post workout)..considering the insulin spike that would normally ensue...would AP be even more beneficial with hi GI?
if there's literature feel free to tell me to go to it..i'm lazy..wr
was that "sexy write up" that was due out Thursday ever posted yet?
Pre-AP, i've come to think carbs are the devil...for me anyway...with the potential of AP i'm really looking forward to being able to utilize carbs how they were meant.
Unfortunately for me...carbs get me bloated and fat rather quickly. I mean i'm used to like 60 grams of carbs a day if that...and to have 3 meals of 60+ carbs a day is a big step
"carb-anonymous?"
h19
anyway...is AP selective of high GI or low GI carbs? I mean i'm thinking no
but if i knew i was going to eat a hi gi carb meal..white bread, sweets etc and took an AP before...(especially post workout)..considering the insulin spike that would normally ensue...would AP be even more beneficial with hi GI?
if there's literature feel free to tell me to go to it..i'm lazy..wr
was that "sexy write up" that was due out Thursday ever posted yet?
Pre-AP, i've come to think carbs are the devil...for me anyway...with the potential of AP i'm really looking forward to being able to utilize carbs how they were meant.
Unfortunately for me...carbs get me bloated and fat rather quickly. I mean i'm used to like 60 grams of carbs a day if that...and to have 3 meals of 60+ carbs a day is a big step
"carb-anonymous?"
h19
CHAPS
Registered User
I use AP before i take my Surge post-workout and right their i'm getting around 60-70g's of pure glucose and i'm fine. And you'll be able to enjoy carbs again with AP. Most ppl nowadays are insulin resistant to one degree or another so AP is perfect for everyone, and it makes a dramatic difference, you can actually see 
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