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I have read the logs, did a search but nowhere can I figure out what this stuff is...........can someone fill me in, what is it? what is it supposed to do?
 
per usp's words in the new exciting compound thread:

USPLabs is testing a NEW compound. The HUMAN and animal research has blown our MINDS! USPLabs is known from innovation, but this compound will shine a bigger spot light on USPLabs.

THere should be a feel effect with this SINGLE compound. The published research does not note a PUMP or muscle fullness in the conclusion.lol

This Compound out performed Metformin! This was a 6 month study! Those who understand metformin will state that Metformin also increases glucose update to fat cells. A very bad bad thing for us that want to get HUGE and LEAN!

In Summary this compound based on HUMAN and Animal research will:

--Enhanced glucose uptake in to skeletal muscle tissue only (not in adipose).
--Inhibition of lipogenesis
--Increase in lipid oxidation
--Improved blood lipids

HUMAN DOUBLE BLIND PLACEBO CONTROLLED STUDY HAS PROVEN THIS. Why are we testing? Thats how we roll, we are a bit different and considered weird by industry standards. We will not doop u!

Layman's Terms

--Increased glycogen storage in muscle
--Increased fat burning and at the same time a prevention of fat storage (nutrient partitioning, especially of carbohydrate, but fats as well)
--Improved cholesterol and triglyceride levels



and heres whats in the amazing little bottle of yellow stuff:

Tumeric
Piperine
luteolin

Luteolin is the pump and anti E effect
Tumerice is muscle regeneration quick recovery and slight pump
Piperine-bioavailability--very important

An amazing formula!

Ratio is extremely important and an aspect we tinkered with for over 4 months. Please do not ask amounts of each.
 
Not sure when, but I do know my blood glucose is down around 97mg/dl these days.. It works, very well.. ;)
 
sh1t, this is some pixie dust I would have loved to test. Yet again I am behind the curve on new exciting stupenderrific supps coming from USPlabs.

Viva USPlabs in any event... Viva rah rah rah
 
bigpetefox said:
Not sure when, but I do know my blood glucose is down around 97mg/dl these days.. It works, very well.. ;)

97 when, BigPete? If I recall you are type II like me.

This is not a great fasting # but if it is post prandial that is pretty extraordinary...

R
 
bigpetefox said:
Not sure when, but I do know my blood glucose is down around 97mg/dl these days.. It works, very well.. ;)


Ive been tempted to get myself a glucose meter as well just to see the difference. The price of the strips makes me think otherwise :)
 
Rivet said:
Ive been tempted to get myself a glucose meter as well just to see the difference. The price of the strips makes me think otherwise :)

A normal person with a healthy pancreas/insulin sensitivity should really not notice ANY effects based solely on blood glucose measurements unless you have NIDDM.
 
bigpetefox said:
I just so happen to have NIDDM, and insurance that pays for my meter strips.. ;)

Can you answer rhyalus question, I am very interested in your response..
 
DeerDeer said:
A normal person with a healthy pancreas/insulin sensitivity should really not notice ANY effects based solely on blood glucose measurements unless you have NIDDM.

Normal? No hehe but no Im not type 2. Recently been tested for diabetes and I came out negative :)
 
Rivet said:
Normal? No hehe but no Im not type 2. Recently been tested for diabetes and I came out negative :)

I guess I don't really see how this could benefit you or I then?

Cheers!
 
DeerDeer said:
I guess I don't really see how this could benefit you or I then?

Cheers!

The Yellow Gold? Check my log out its in a link under my sig :) Im seeing nice mild improvements.
 
USPLabs said:
why out of curiousity?

Looking at it in terms of increased glucose uptake in skeletal muscle: We are aware that we already have glucose transporters, multiple in fact. I don't see how a supplement could in fact increase sensitivity in the face of a normal individual with normal functioning pancreas unless it is able to increase either the number of glucose transporters or their saturation properties/transport curves - these would however have global effects - namely liver, muscle (GLUT 4 sequestration), adipose.

I guess the greatest value would be in the inhibition of lipogenesis - where if you do in fact increase glucose uptake (specifically in the liver, you are increasing glycogen stores, unless you are actually countering it by acute and chronic decreases in blood sugar - which the body would counter by glycogenolysis, and a pop in cortisol production (BAD)) If there is a way to trick the body into thinking you are hypoglycemic WITHOUT inducing a stess response (ie increasing cortisol) that would be fantastic!

An increase in lipid oxidation could again occur at the receptor lever (ie increase in transport) or by an increase in the rate of breakdown. See TTA studies.

I'm excited to hear about the potential effects, but as a weary supplement user, i try to learn as much as I can! I definitely appreciate all fo the info you can forward along!

P.S. It owuld be a simple way to check for an increase in GLUT 4 in muscle tissue by getting 50 rats, feed half placebo, half the supplement for say 30 days. Biopsy their muscle and assay for an increase in GLUT 4 receptors - these antibodies are commercially available, make friends with an immunohistochemist (and PPAR expression, adiposity in the rat epididymis) for completeness. Heck, you may even be able to publish the results.

Keep up the great work!

Cheers!
 
DeerDeer said:
Looking at it in terms of increased glucose uptake in skeletal muscle: We are aware that we already have glucose transporters, multiple in fact. I don't see how a supplement could in fact increase sensitivity in the face of a normal individual with normal functioning pancreas unless it is able to increase either the number of glucose transporters or their saturation properties/transport curves - these would however have global effects - namely liver, muscle (GLUT 4 sequestration), adipose.

I guess the greatest value would be in the inhibition of lipogenesis - where if you do in fact increase glucose uptake (specifically in the liver, you are increasing glycogen stores, unless you are actually countering it by acute and chronic decreases in blood sugar - which the body would counter by glycogenolysis, and a pop in cortisol production (BAD)) If there is a way to trick the body into thinking you are hypoglycemic WITHOUT inducing a stess response (ie increasing cortisol) that would be fantastic!

An increase in lipid oxidation could again occur at the receptor lever (ie increase in transport) or by an increase in the rate of breakdown. See TTA studies.

I'm excited to hear about the potential effects, but as a weary supplement user, i try to learn as much as I can! I definitely appreciate all fo the info you can forward along!

P.S. It owuld be a simple way to check for an increase in GLUT 4 in muscle tissue by getting 50 rats, feed half placebo, half the supplement for say 30 days. Biopsy their muscle and assay for an increase in GLUT 4 receptors - these antibodies are commercially available, make friends with an immunohistochemist (and PPAR expression, adiposity in the rat epididymis) for completeness. Heck, you may even be able to publish the results.

Keep up the great work!

Cheers!

Smart response! We will reveal the mechanism and extraction process once the patent is completed. To many copy cats, we must reep the benefits.

What do you do for a living?(if you do not mind)

PS. Bigpetefox is the only NIDDM in the testing group. YG does work for the normal human and works very well.

I do own the company and have vested interest in the product. I am a supplement user and a cautious one at that. My goal is not money first. My goal is creating and finding NEW innovative supplements that work. Money is the side effect.

take care
 
Thanks!

I agree with you - keep the mechanism and extraction process under wraps. It is so hard from a consumer standpoint to be patient :-)
 
DeerDeer said:
It is so hard from a consumer standpoint to be patient :-)

Even though we do engineer our herbs, this did not stop all the bulk guys and clone companies to copy cissus. These companies feed off our research and marketing and reeping huge profit. They can offer a lower price because they do not invest in engineering or product education/marketing. We do the leg work.

I am huge fan of research and development and our NEW research facility should be finished in 3-4 months in India.

You will see published studies.
 
Rhyalus said:
97 when, BigPete? If I recall you are type II like me.

This is not a great fasting # but if it is post prandial that is pretty extraordinary...

R

You do know that a low glucose number for you may be too high for me, and vice-versa.. My fasting numbers are higher, the lower is usually 2hrs after 500mg of product and eating 50-80g complex carbs..

I capped the powder, the way I got it is in my log.. I take 3 caps ED with 4 caps Cialabol twice daily..
 
bigpetefox said:
You do know that a low glucose number for you may be too high for me, and vice-versa.. My fasting numbers are higher, the lower is usually 2hrs after 500mg of product and eating 50-80g complex carbs..

I capped the powder, the way I got it is in my log.. I take 3 caps ED with 4 caps Cialabol twice daily..

Actually high and low glucose numbers are universal. If it is persistently elevated, your hemoglobin a1c would indicate this. and serves as a physician's reference for short term (approximately 3 months) glycemic control. As a reminder:

blood sugar 99 and below --> Normal
100 to 125 --> Pre-diabetes
126 and above Diabetes
 
Right - I am controlled with meds, so my fasting BG is anywhere from 85-95. A1C dropped from 10 to 5.5 with excersize, diet and meds.

I use R-ALA to help with the BG when doing carbs.

Bigpete...not sure if you are on meds or not, but if you are monitoring your bloods and YG is keeping your BG in check, I'll believe you. :thumbsup:

Do you compare the effects to R-ALA?

Thanks,
R
 
Very interesting Pete. Just wondering if you've taken it before simple carb meals (or cheat meals) ? I tried it with the cialabol and noticed I became very very tired. Tried to see if I could "overeat" again after dosing yg and it hasn't really happended yet.
 
wideguy said:
Very interesting Pete. Just wondering if you've taken it before simple carb meals (or cheat meals) ? I tried it with the cialabol and noticed I became very very tired. Tried to see if I could "overeat" again after dosing yg and it hasn't really happended yet.


This happened to me using YG 15mins before a Chinese buffet. I felt the need for a nap very badly about 30mins after.
 
Rhyalus: I feel this is stronger than R-ala, for me at least..

wideguy: I take both Cialabol and YG, I take Cia with whey/malto shake, and YG with a meal with high carbs..
 
Any sore joints reported from YG or Cialabol users because of estrogen lowering?

What about libido?
 
bigpetefox said:
Rhyalus: I feel this is stronger than R-ala, for me at least..

wideguy: I take both Cialabol and YG, I take Cia with whey/malto shake, and YG with a meal with high carbs..
Pete, if you only could choose one, Cialabol or YG, which would it be? If Yg isn't released in the next 3weeks, I will go with Cialabol but if at that time it is out I will have to choose.
 
Cordeen said:
Any sore joints reported from YG or Cialabol users because of estrogen lowering?

What about libido?

No sore joints here. Libido, can't help you there since its always on the high side for me.
 
Rivet said:
No sore joints here. Libido, can't help you there since its always on the high side for me.

Thanks

See I'd like to try either YG or Cialabol with the NHA stack...one concern though is that my libido tends to suffer when estrogen goes too low.
 
Cordeen said:
Thanks

See I'd like to try either YG or Cialabol with the NHA stack...one concern though is that my libido tends to suffer when estrogen goes too low.

Ive used ATD and that lowered my libido alot. I found it refreshing but I could see it as being negative for a long period of time. If you wanted I hear that the new Rebound Reloaded is much friendlier on the libido you could always read up on that.
 
Rivet said:
Ive used ATD and that lowered my libido alot. I found it refreshing but I could see it as being negative for a long period of time. If you wanted I hear that the new Rebound Reloaded is much friendlier on the libido you could always read up on that.

I've actually ran the NHA stack a couple of times now and still have more on hand. Seems 2 RR and 4 Activate was my sweet spot. Anymore than 2 RR and sex drive suffers. Perhaps when I run it again soon I will stick with the same protocol and slowly introduce Cialabol at 2-4 caps per day and increase accordingly.
 
Cordeen said:
I've actually ran the NHA stack a couple of times now and still have more on hand. Seems 2 RR and 4 Activate was my sweet spot. Anymore than 2 RR and sex drive suffers. Perhaps when I run it again soon I will stick with the same protocol and slowly introduce Cialabol at 2-4 caps per day and increase accordingly.


start with 4 caps twice a day with pre and post workout meals. You can go up to 6-8 caps twice a day. THe reason the Product is SO cheap at nutraplanet is because it is underdosed a bit. I would buy 2 bottles and by then we will have the best verision.

take care
 
USPLabs said:
start with 4 caps twice a day with pre and post workout meals. You can go up to 6-8 caps twice a day. THe reason the Product is SO cheap at nutraplanet is because it is underdosed a bit. I would buy 2 bottles and by then we will have the best verision.

take care

Thank you
 
wideguy said:
Very interesting Pete. Just wondering if you've taken it before simple carb meals (or cheat meals) ? I tried it with the cialabol and noticed I became very very tired. Tried to see if I could "overeat" again after dosing yg and it hasn't really happended yet.

If you keep the strictly carbs (mix of simple and complex) and Whey and casien protein pre and post workout, I would say in theory it would be hard to overeat when using the proper ratios and PROPER nutrients!!!!!!. I would say try this pre and post workout with a 500mg of Yellow Gold and 6 caps of cialabol.

First wideGUY..what are your stats?

Height
Weight
body fat % quick estimation

I would like to experiement a little with ya..if you don't mind?
 
Cordeen said:
I've actually ran the NHA stack a couple of times now and still have more on hand. Seems 2 RR and 4 Activate was my sweet spot. Anymore than 2 RR and sex drive suffers. Perhaps when I run it again soon I will stick with the same protocol and slowly introduce Cialabol at 2-4 caps per day and increase accordingly.

Cialabol would be fine with the NHA stack.. No need to be gradual with it, IMO.. Oddly enough, 5 RR makes me horny beyond belief.. :D
 
bigpetefox said:
Cialabol would be fine with the NHA stack.. No need to be gradual with it, IMO.. Oddly enough, 5 RR makes me horny beyond belief.. :D

Cialabol with the NHA stack WOULD BE AMAZING!
 
bigpetefox said:
Guess what I'll be stacking for contest prep next year? ;)

YG finished product
Cialabol
NHA Stack

How do you like RR over RXT? I got 2 bottles of RXT left over. If its just nice on the libido then I dont mind the break from my libido. But if its more "anabolic" then I may think of using it.
 
bigpetefox said:
Guess what I'll be stacking for contest prep next year? ;)

YG finished product
Cialabol
NHA Stack

Not to blow my horn, You will need PowerFULL and a little cissus. If you take me up on it, I will sponsor all the USPlabs products needed with contest prep. If you cut contest pre short, I cut the supplies off!!!!hahahahahahaha and its holloween soon brother.

take car

PS..The holloween line was done in the scariest possible voice and does not hold revelance in the pharagraph. I'm just a bit off and whacky.lol
 
Rivet said:
How do you like RR over RXT? I got 2 bottles of RXT left over. If its just nice on the libido then I dont mind the break from my libido. But if its more "anabolic" then I may think of using it.

RR is definitely stronger, at really high doses it can be a no-no for the willie.. I say start at 1-2 caps, then add another after a week of the low dose.. If your joints don't dry out and you still get wood then 1 more may not hurt, or it could..
 
USPLabs said:
Not blow my horn, You will need PowerFULL and a little cissus. If you take me up on it, I will sponsor all the USPlabs products needed with contest prep. If you cut contest pre short, I cut the supplies off!!!!hahahahahahaha and its holloween soon brother.

take car

PS..The holloween line was done in the scariest possible voice and does not hold revelance in the pharagraph. I'm just a bit off and whacky.lol

Didn't you reformulate PowerFULL? The first was ok, didn't get the magic everyone else did.. I might take you up on that, brother.. ;)
 
You get points for posting man. I've gotten some Jungle Warfare and something else (Symmetry maybe?) just for posting my mindless drivel.
Plus some other stuff (avatar).
 
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