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Morning all, first I would like to thank USP for giving me this opportunity to test out their product. I am looking forward to keeping a detailed log.

First some info on me, I am a 19year old raw Powerlifter, with recent lifts:

Squat 345x5(last week)
Bench 250x5(last Sunday)
DL 485x4.75(just missed lockout on last rep last week)
I approximate my total to be ~1200-1300 raw

I weigh in at 215lbs 1st thing in the morning, after my pee.

I am currently bulking and will continue to do so throughout my use of cissus, my diet is extremely variable in the foods I eat, but I always get 6 meals a day and I get around:

300g protein per day
70g fat per day
300-350g carbs on rest days
500+g carbs on workout days
Total calories ~3400on rest days and ~3800 on workout days. I steadily gain about 1lb a week using this scheme.

I will not write out a daily diet as it is so changeable, but will say I only eat wholegrains(or other Low GI options) as my carbs, lean meat and fish for my protein (as well as whey around workouts). I get my fats from peanut butter (fresh ground), almonds, peanuts, cashews, salmon and fish oils.


Workout plan

I workout 4-5x a week. usually 2 days on, 1 off. My workouts follow a scheme as follows:

ME bench day
Bench press (4 warmups followed by 4-5 working sets of 5-3-3-2-1)
Reverse grip BB row (3 warmups followed by 4-5 working sets of 5-3-3-3-2)
Seated DB military press (2 warmups followed by 3 working sets of 5-3-3)
Close grip bench or Tri pushdowns with bands (2 warmups followed by 2 working sets of 5-5)
Hammer curls (2 warmups then 2 working sets of 5-5)

ME DL/DE squat
Deadlift (4 warmups followed by 4-5 working sets of 5-3-3-2-1)
Seated calf raise (3 warmups followed by 4-5 working sets of 5-3-3-3-2)
BB static holds, 3 sets of 10-20 seconds mix grip
Hack squat machine (2 warmups followed by 3 work sets of 8)
DE box squat 10sets of 3 reps explosive

DE Bench day
DE bench press 10x3 explosive
Upper body assistance work, this is very variable and depends what I feel like doing. All sets are 8 reps and I ensure I hit each upper body muscle well.

ME Squat/DE Deadlift
Squat(4 warmups followed by 4-5 working sets of 5-3-3-2-1)
Seated calf raise (2 warmups followed by 3 working sets of 8-8-8)
Banded Pull through (2 warmups followed by 3 working sets of 10-10-10)
DE banded Bavarian Deadlift 10x3

Supplementation is as follows, nearly all of these are just for general healt:

ALA
Grape seed extract
Vit C
Vit E
B complex
Garlic
Glucosamine
ALCAR/Tyrosine/Caffeine sometimes pre workout if I am tired and sometimes when studying.
CEE 3g/day, I never come off this, I have been using for over a year now
Whey protein
Milk protein

I will dose Cissus:

3caps 8.15AM(waking, pre breakfast)
3caps pre workout(either 11AM or 2PM)
3caps immediately post workout 10mins before my solid meal
3caps pre bed, 30mins before bedtime meal.

Until the bottles run out.

I will dose Symmetry from day 15 with
2caps at 8.15
3 caps pre workout
2 caps pre bed

That’s a lot of cissus :D

I took my 1st dose this morning, and I have a DL workout today at 2. Lets get this show on the road.
 

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good luck meathead1987, look forward to hearing your expirences.
 

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Not a good start at all today, I had a terrible workout. My back was hurting, and I have no idea why, I think I need to lay off deads for a while. I will replace with box squats and goodmornings.

DL
135x10
220x5
310x5
400x5
--------warmup over
440x5
460x2
440x2
310x5
350x5
350x5
Absolutely terrible.

Hammer strength Seated calf raise
155x8
165x8
170x8

Speed box squat(1 below //)
135+doubles minibands 10x3reps. The only good part of this workout.
 
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Can't wait for the results! Very interested in the stack!
 

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Day 2 is a rest day, nothing to report to be honest but I didnt expect to notice anything yet. I will dose 4/4/4 today.
 

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Right, this stuff is kicking in.

Today I took 3 upon waking, then 3 pre workout 2hrs later. During the workout I had a colossal pump even to the point where it hurt, so I am going to drop the dose to 2 upon waking and see if that helps. My strength was up and I "felt" strong on all my sets.

DE bench
Pinky on ring all sets of 3 with 30-45secs rest
110
135
155
155
155
165
170
170
170
170
175 (80kg)too slow
170
170
170

Flat Bench pinky on ring
175x8
180x8
190x8
195x7(87.5kg) PR for high reps, felt solid except last rep

Hammer grip pulldown
170x8(77kg, +15lbs PR)
170x8 +15lbs
155x8 These felt so good, Should cissus be helping with mind muscle connection? Because I really nailed these.

Seated DB military
52's x8
52's x8
52's(24kg) x8 nothing too hard here

BB row
110x8 easy
135x8
135x8 solid!

Nice increase in strength all around really, especially on the lat pulldown. I was looking at myself in the mirror after the workout and have to say I looked bigger than I ever have before pumped, and I have a lot of experience with pump supplements. Cissus has been superior to a stack of:

3g citrulline
2g AAKG
1g histidine
5g taurine
2g betaine

in the pump department.

Lets hope the strength gains follow suit in the next few weeks.
 

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Right, this stuff is kicking in.

Today I took 3 upon waking, then 3 pre workout 2hrs later. During the workout I had a colossal pump even to the point where it hurt, so I am going to drop the dose to 2 upon waking and see if that helps. My strength was up and I "felt" strong on all my sets.

DE bench
Pinky on ring all sets of 3 with 30-45secs rest
110
135
155
155
155
165
170
170
170
170
175 (80kg)too slow
170
170
170

Flat Bench pinky on ring
175x8
180x8
190x8
195x7(87.5kg) PR for high reps, felt solid except last rep

Hammer grip pulldown
170x8(77kg, +15lbs PR)
170x8 +15lbs
155x8 These felt so good, Should cissus be helping with mind muscle connection? Because I really nailed these.

Seated DB military
52's x8
52's x8
52's(24kg) x8 nothing too hard here

BB row
110x8 easy
135x8
135x8 solid!

Nice increase in strength all around really, especially on the lat pulldown. I was looking at myself in the mirror after the workout and have to say I looked bigger than I ever have before pumped, and I have a lot of experience with pump supplements. Cissus has been superior to a stack of:

3g citrulline
2g AAKG
1g histidine
5g taurine
2g betaine

in the pump department.

Lets hope the strength gains follow suit in the next few weeks.
N02 supplements are great in vasolidating and increasing blood flow. The CIssus Pump and PowerFULL pump is associated with increase in contraction (tha ability to what I call SUPER FLEX and feel the fibers squeze) strength. This ain't an NO2 pump:}
 

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So it is actually increasing motor neurone firing rate? THat would explain the better mind muscle connection aswell.
 

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12 again today, split 3 3 3 3. Nothing to report, no workout. Squat day tomorrow.
 

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Great workout today. I have just reintroduced box squats and really got in the groove today. Once again Mind muscle connection was top notch.

Box squat 1" below //
135x10 knees felt bad
200x5
230x5 knees fine by here
285x5
---------warmup over
310x5 easy
320x3 solid
330x3 tough but solid form
340x3 hard, couldnt get footing right
355x3 very solid, felt easier than 340
365x2 PR Was overjoyed with this, almost as good as my normal squat. Hopefully the weight will go up fast as its a new exercise

Goodmorning
135x5
175x5
185x3
200x3
210x3
220x3 +15lbs PR, I dropped these a couple weeks ago, just started them up again and I'm 15lbs stronger, I feel the cissus may well have something to do with this.

This was a very very good ME day, one of the best in a while actually. I have dosed cissus @ 3(waking) 3(pre wo) 3(post wo) and will have 3 more at 10PM. No painful pumps like before, maybe that was a fluke.
 

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Sorry for the lack of updates. I couldnt get AM to load on monday but I did post over at the synergy forums. Monday I did upper power:

Bench
135x10
165x5
200x5
220x5
230x3
240x3
250x3--as soon as I went over 240 my elbows started playing up.
260x1

Reverse grip BB row
Bar x20
135x5
200x5x4sets

Seated military
20's x10
50's x5
70's x5x3sets

Dissapointing ovedrall and I hope the cissus kicks in on my elbows soon.

Yesterday(tuesday) I had food poisoning, I managed to take my cissus but only got 3 meals in, so I am going to have a rest day again today and workout tomorrow(thursday).


Today was ME squat day, I took it easy as I am probably not at 100% still.

Squat
135x10
175x5
220x5
265x5
310x5
330x3
345x3(155kg)
330x3

DE deadlift
135x3
220x3
230x3
245x3
255x3
255x3
265x3
265x3
275x3
275x3

Seated calf
135x8
135x8
135x8

Machine Hack squat
660x6
660x6

Not bad, I am getting pissed off though because I can't hit things as hard as I would like. Hopefully I will be back to 100% saturday.

I have got all my cissus doses in, dosing 4 4 4 now, I can't say I have noticed a huge amount except for some very good pumps. It's not exactly a fair test as I haven't been 100% since my workout on saturday.
 

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do your muscles feel fuller all day while on this mega dose?
 

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They did before I got this damn food poisoning, not a huge amount though, but noticable to me and my girlfriend.
 

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For the past couple of days I have felt very big and full. Dosed 12 cissus yesterday which was a rest day and will dose another 12 today, 4 pre, 4 post workout and 4 10hrs later.
 

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Solid workout today, I feel back on top form.

DE bench day

DE bench(all sets 3 reps if not stated otherwise)
competition grip
110x5
135
155
165
175
175
175
175
175
175(80kg)
close grip
135x5
155
155
155
155

These felt very strong today and I have very good MM connection. +5-10lbs from last week.

Decline DB bench--never ever done these before, but I liked them
65's x7(30kg)
60's x8
60's x7

Hammer grip pulldown
170x8
170x8
170x6

Seated military
50's x8
50's x8(22kg)

BB row
135x8
135x8
135x8 solid

Tri pushdown(with doubled red miniband)
55x8
55x8
55x7 felt very strong, went up a band strength and down 50lbs.

Definately feeling this cissus very well now. I felt strong throughout this workout and still feel great now. I got a massive pump also, and my muscles feel very full and dense.
 
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Good log meaty. How's your definition looking?
 

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Very interesting workout today, cissus is definately dfoing something, read on...

Box squat
135x10
220x5
265x5
310x5(140kg)
320x3
330x3
345x2
345x2(155kg) I really concentrated on form today, sat back, paused on box and exploded up, these felt great

Goodmorning
135x5
175x5
200x3
220x3--felt way easy
230x3 solid
240x3 awesome! +20lbs PR
255x2 Solid here too!

Seated hammer calf
55x10
110x8
176x5
187x3
200x3
210x3
210x3

Speed box squat(all 3reps)
135
175
200(too slow with new pause technique)
175
175
175
175
175
175
175(80kg)
Ever seen veins on a dude sitting at 18% bodyfat? My quads had a few nice ones in today, definately the cissus as I never usually get this even at low bodyfat

Plate flipping
22's x10x3sets
33's x5x3sets

Also to note on the cissus, I have never had veins in my legs befpre, especially not at over 15% bodyfat. They were popping out like crazy. Huge pump again too. I was very very impressed with the goodmorning strength increase too. This stuff is really starting to kick now.
 

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Something is up. I think I have seriously underestimated the thermogenic capabilities of cissus. The last week or so I have been sweating like a paedo on a playground, I have only just nailed it down to the cissus, which has been the only change in my routine. I believe that is why I havent been gaining as much strength in the gym, even though some lifts have still risen a lot(goodmornings, box squats). Also, I did actually notice abs last night, now I dont normally look at my abs because I am a fatass and dont have any. Last night I looked and Bam, a 4pack out of nowhere. It was freaky(in a good way) this may account in part for the vascularity too.

I am also noticing some insane pumps that last longer than usual, and also today I had a huge vein all the way down my arm branching into a roadmap on my forearm post workout. Here is the workout:

ME bench
110x12
145x5
175x5
210x5
220x3
230x3
240x2
240x3
230x2

Reverse grip BB row
200x5
200x5
200x5
200x5

DB shoulder press
80's x3 +10lbs each arm
75's x4
75's x3

Hammer curl
50's x5
50's x5

CGBP
175x5
175x5

Plate flipping(with proper olympic plates this time, lots harder!)
10's x10
22's x8
22's x8
33's x2
22's x6
Pinch grip statics 33's x30secs x2 sets.
 

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Still sweating like anything, but the temperature has been up a bit the past few days. I started symmetry yesterday also, 2/2/2/2 dosing. Had a really good lower body workout today:

Squat
135x10
175x5
230x5
275x5
310x5
320x3
330x3
340x3
355x3 Best since I had my food poisoning.

Squat with doubled red bands
175x3
230x3
240x3
265x3

Seated hammer calf
55x10
110x5
165x8x5sets

Speed deadlifts(all 3 reps with pause so no bounce)
135
220
245
265
265
265
265
265
265
265
265

Great workout, I really felt and looked awesome. Saw that leg vein creeping in again, which was very nice.
 

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Excellent workout today, strength was up all round!

DE bench day

DE bench(all sets 3 reps)
135
155
165
175
180
180
180
180
180
180
180
180

Hammer grip pulldown
170x8
170x8
170x8

Decline DB bench
60's x8
60's x8
60's x8

BB row
135x8
135x8
135x8
135x8

Push press
135x8
135x8
135x8

Tri pushdown(with doubled red band)
66x8
77x8
77x8
88x7

EZ curl
90x8
90x8
 

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Also, another huge pump and general great feeling. Also to note, I am horny as a dog.
 

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Great lower body day today:

Box squat(// box)
135x10
190x5
235x5
280x5
310x5
320x3
330x3
345x3
355x3
365x3 +20lbs and 1rep PR, awesome. I didnt think Iwould pull out 3 here.

Goodmorning
135x5
190x5
220x3
230x3
245x2 -10lbs, I was fooked from the box squats

Seated hammer calf
55x10
110x6
154x5
190x3
200x3
200x3
200x3

Pinch grip statics + plate flipping
plate flip:
11's x10
22's x8
22's x8
Static pinch grip work --> plate flipping
44's x20secs-->22's x8
44's x20secs-->22's x8
 

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Great lower body day today:

Box squat(// box)
135x10
190x5
235x5
280x5
310x5
320x3
330x3
345x3
355x3
365x3 +20lbs and 1rep PR, awesome. I didnt think Iwould pull out 3 here.

Goodmorning
135x5
190x5
220x3
230x3
245x2 -10lbs, I was fooked from the box squats

Seated hammer calf
55x10
110x6
154x5
190x3
200x3
200x3
200x3

Pinch grip statics + plate flipping
plate flip:
11's x10
22's x8
22's x8
Static pinch grip work --> plate flipping
44's x20secs-->22's x8
44's x20secs-->22's x8
Whats plate flipping?
 

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Awesome workout again today, nailed everything and PR's all around

Flat Bench
110x10
145x5
190x5
210x5
220x3
230x3
240x3 +1rep
255x2 +10lbs

Reverse grip BB row
Barx20
135x5
175x5
205x5 +5lbs PR in that rep range
205x5
225x3 +5lbs PR in that rep range
225x3

Seated DB military
75's x5 +2reps
80's x3 +5lbs
80's x3

Tricep pushdown
210x5
210x5
210x5

Hammer curl
50's x5
50's x5

Looking massive still, not sure if its muscle or glycogen though. We shall see when I come off. I have noticed a definite improvement since I started the symmetry.
 

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Good workout again today.

Squat
135x10
190x5
240x5
280x5
315x5 +5lbs
325x3 +5lbs
335x3 +5lbs
350x3
350x2 All were solid sets

Squat with doubles minibands
155x5
220x3
245x3
275x3
275x3

Seated hammer calf
155x8
165x8
175x8
185x8
200x8

DE deadlifts(all 3 reps)
155
245
265
275
280
280
280
280
280
280
280
280 +15lbs on all hardest sets, great work!

Still looking very big and feeling very strong. My quads looked massive once again today, and vascular to boot.
 

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Very good DE bench day today:

DE bench(all 3 reps except where stated)
90x10
135
155
175
175
175
175
175
175
175
175
175
175 All felt strong.

Hammer pulldown
175x8 +5lbs PR
175x8 +5lbs
170x8

Decline DB bench
62.5's x8 +5lbs each arm
62.5's x8 +5lbs
62.5's x6+5lbs
55's x8

BB row
145x8 +10lbs
145x8 +10lbs
130x8

BB military
110x8
110x8 gonna switch back to DB press, much nice lift for me.

Double mini band pushdown
90x8
100x8
90x8

Powerclean
50x5
135x5
175x3
185x3
200x3
175x5--really liked these, 1st time I have ever done them. I think I will do them every week now.
175x5
 

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Solid ME lower body today, the box seemed lower today even though it wasnt, I couldnt get my groove right.

//Box squat
135x10
190x5
245x5
290x5
310x5
320x3
330x3
345x3
355x2

GM
135x5
175x5
220x5 +2reps
245x3 +1rep
255x3 +10lbs and a rep

Seated hammer calf
45x10
135x5
175x5
185x3
195x3
210x3
210x4
220x3 +20lbs PR

Static BB hold
475x20
475x20

Speed Box squat(all x3)
135
175
175
185
185
185
185
185
185
185
185
185 +10lbs on all sets

Amazing pump again today, still looking massive and full. I have not gained a huge amount of strength, but I do seem to have a lot more size to me. I also have much better definition.
 
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good job my man!! keep up the hard work because it seems to paying off for you.
 

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good job my man!! keep up the hard work because it seems to paying off for you.
Thanks dude. I have had the past 3 days off the gym as I have had exams each day. They all went very very well and now I can get back to my training. I only have a couple days left of cissus though unfortunately, so this log will have to end soon. I definately plan to get more though, and possible dose even higher as I will be getting bulk powder for cheap! 10g a day here I come!
 

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Great workout to get back into the wwing of things today:

Flat bench
110x10
135x5
155x3x2sets speed
175x5
200x5
220x5 +10lbs
230x3
245x3
255x3 with a tiny bit of assistance on the last rep
No elbow trouble at all now!

Rev grip BB row
barx15
135x5
175x5
200x5
210x5 +10lbs PR
220x3
230x3 +10lbs PR
220x3

Powerclean + puch press
90x5+5
135x5+5
175x3+3
200x3(PP with 175x3)
220x3
210x3 +10lbs PR
220x2, almost 3 PR

Close grip bench
110x10
155x5
175x5
200x5 =PR
210x3 PR
210x3 PR

DB hammer
10's x10
45's x5
55's x3
50's x5

Pinch grip +plate flipping
45's x25secs + 22's x5
45's x20secs + 22's x4
45's x20secs + 22's x4

I was very happy with this, was pumped to hell afterwards looking bigger than ever!
 

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