Pfunk47-**CISSUS MEGA-DOSING LOG**

[Pfunk47]

Cheers!! - I will be doing a CISSSUS MEGA-DOSING LOG for Synergy Muscle - Thanks again guys for giving me this oppurtunity.

My stats:
ME - Pfunk47
Age: 27
Sex: M
HT: 5'11
WT: 231.5 Lbs (16.5 stones!!)
BF: 9.3% - electronic calipers used.

I have been dieting for the past 11 weeks on one of Bobo's programs I did last year in the spring.


Measurements taken yesterday 5/21 - Week 11 of my dieting
LB - F= 18 UF= 16.25
RB - F= 18 UF= 16.25
C - F= 45 UF= 43.25
LT - F= 27.5 UF= 26.5
RT - F= 27.25 UF= 26.25
LC - F= 17 UF= 16.5
RC - F= 17 UF= 16.5

w=37
231.5LBS
BF= 9.3%

Current Supps:

Mega-dosing EXCELL (BCAA's)
Powerfull (old style) - 12-16 a day
Cissus - currently been at 9 a day for 5 months
V-12 - did 8 weeks, just ended Sat so that is no more.

Current Diet and EXCELL Mega-dosing log:
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/43013-excell-log-pfunk47.html


Protocol:

Cissus moved up to 15 a day - doing- 3,3,3,3,3 dosing
Powerfull - 12-16 a day (same)
EXCELL - Mega-dosing 6 servings a day

**Introducing Symetry in 15 days*****



Day 1 - I started Sundy 5/21 - I did 5, 5, 5 as that is what fit my schedule that day.

The pump that came about 20 mins after I ate was pretty intense. In the AM I always got a "pumped" feeling from the Combo I have been taking above but increasing the dosage of just Cissus - even more intensified that pump - I saw more than average veins and muscle fullness for an AM and that was only the first increased dosage.

The pump lasted throughout the entire day and even throughout my workout it didnt' seem like it increased too much - so I guess I was had the "pumped" feeling all day.

 

[Pfunk47]

Day 2 - Day 3

Monday - Back - 3, 3, 3, 3, 3 dosing

aching joints that I get from dieting - gone - they only appear once I get below 10% - weird I know. The normal cissus dosing mae them non-existant but I fealt them the most in the am when rising and late at night - all gone since increasing dose.

Broken collar bone - 8 months ago - ligament pain that was there until 3 weeks ago - still totally gone but usually on Back days when I do pull-ups - I woudl still get some pain - I coudl feel that pain wanting to be there but it stay gone since increasing dose.

Pumps all around are great and increased since uping the dose

Tuesday cardio only - 3, 3, 9

Took 9 before bed with 4 powerfull - about 20 mins after my last meal I fealt like I just got done with a workout - pumped as hell and also the wood would not reside - instant wood (I'll do a proper evaulation in the next day or so when I see my lady)

so far 3 days in I am digging the mega-dosing - cant' wait to see what adding symetry will do

 

[Basso]

Took 9 before bed with 4 powerfull - about 20 mins after my last meal I fealt like I just got done with a workout - pumped as hell and also the wood would not reside - instant wood (I'll do a proper evaulation in the next day or so when I see my lady)

so far 3 days in I am digging the mega-dosing - cant' wait to see what adding symetry will do

I had heard that Cissus could negatively affect Libido, but I am also noticing some positive effects which really sucks for me since I won't be seeing my wife for another 49 weeks! I was hoping the rumors were true and it would give me some limp ****. Oh well, maybe some extra DLs will get me mind off of it :frustrate

 

[D@LABS]

I had heard that Cissus could negatively affect Libido, but I am also noticing some positive effects which really sucks for me since I won't be seeing my wife for another 49 weeks! I was hoping the rumors were true and it would give me some limp ****. Oh well, maybe some extra DLs will get me mind off of it :frustrate

never heard that one before- do you have any studies? i have read almost all of the literature on cissus and have used it for over a year straight and this is the first time i have heard of this

 

[Basso]

No, just hear say around the board, I didn't take it seriously but sometimes the rumor mill has merit. There was also some allegation that Cissus could cause gyno, how stupid is that? Anyway back to the Mega Dose

 

[Pfunk47]

On day 9 - let's recap the past few

I will have this weeks stats (progress) numbers posted later when I get home.

The past 6 days have been going very well. The pumps from the extra cissus are something else. Tried my little experiment and took 6 before the lady came over - very pleased - extra dosing is producing extra wood.

Some of my bodyfat readings came out at 7.8% this weekend, some at 9.3% - we'll take 8.5% and call is about close, and statyed at 231.5lbs so.... that is more bf lost and more lean mass gained - unreal - I was plateuing in lean mass gained - the extra dosing is kicking that back in. - either way I shoudl not be gaining lean mass while dieting. Anabolic is correct.

Workouts have still been going great - weights fealt good last week but started feeling easier towards the end of the weak - should of fealt harder do to calories decreasing but hmmm.. the extra cissus maybe?

 

[Pfunk47]

Sorry for the long delay - I've been over booked the last two weeks. I'll have a full update later when I get home, my stats are there but.....

on day 16

Started 8 synergy yestereday - 6 on off days.

20 mins after I added the synergy I fealt like my muscles got rock hard, it's hard to describe but it's a feeling I got all throughout my body like things hardened up - weird but great feeling. The pumps from the synergy during workout is pretty intense as well.

so far I am 8.5% bf at 232 this week.

The cissus mega-dosing thus far is going well. between this and the powerull (which is over after today) my balls are FREAKIN HUGE and HEAVY - I mean seriously the other day during hack squats I could not keep my legs as close as normal - I jsut keep crushing my huge balls - I know it sounds innapropriate but...even my lady commented on it - ohh and the wood last forever - if not for the anabolic and pain free benefit - the sexual sides is well worth it alone - haha - I never fealt this good while dieting.

 

[Pfunk47]

Mega dosing over - complete - Fin

BF readings this week 7.5% - 230.5Lbs

BF loss has been crap over this mega-dosing period, that was due to my recent schedule - memorial day, 2 weddings and summer = bad weekends diet wise - I controlled myself but I have had way too many sat/sun cheat meals - they where damn good but not so good for the goals of 5%.

The Mega-dosing was something else though. When on just Cissus at 15 a day - I felt very strong and tight, when I added the 8 a day of Symetry - EXPLOSION!!!! - after about 2 days into adding the symetry my body became so tight it was awesome. After about a week of this feeling I figured out what it was do to one negative side I had.

Symetry combined with Cissus is extreme Tendon strengthening - it tightened all my tendons so much, my joints are starting to hurt (knees & Elbows) - once I warm up - stretch do a set or two, things loosen up and I feel great, it's not hurting me and is certainly not a all day pain - it's like your muscles almost get to the point of being flexed when they are not flexed minues the pump if that makes sense. ( your tendons stretch and tighten when you flex, symetry/Cissus combo is giving you that feeling without flexing - it's like your tendons are spandex, comform tightly to what they are attached too)

As I said in the beginning - I am dieting, been dieting for 15 weeks now. I only ran Cissus/Symetry by itself - v12, EXCELL and powerfull where all stopped in the beginning. With jsut these two supps I had no muscle loss, no strength loss - just lower energy due to dieting (these do nothing for increased energy nor claim too).

Positve effects and results : Tendon strengthing/tightning, Overall body hardening (may be die to the tendon strengthening properties)

Negative sides : Minor joint pain which I believe is due to over tightning of the tendons but it could be due to cortisol since I am dieting, increased doms - again more so due to Tendon properties (If I kept taking EXCELL throughout that would of been eliminated most likely) - For consumers - cost would be a negative but one month of this during a calorie surplus I think would help in some serious strength gains.

Symetry alone IMO is another fantastic USP creation - a moderate dose of 4-6 a day with regular cissus dosing should be more than anyone needs for Tendon repair/strengthening.

I am still screaming about a lucky charm stack - 3 doses of every product usp makes + creatine + BCAA's + great diet = amazing body recomp/transformation.

Thanks again USP -

 

[Basso]

Well that makes me feel better, I thought it was just me but my joints are aching also! Not a dry feeling but just an ache, I've also had increased doms throughout.

Thanks for the great log, and good luck on 5%

 

[Pfunk47]

Thanks - I need it my will power is weak right now, summer bbq's keep calling my name.

I am glad it's not only me either - I initially thought it was from dieting but as the doeseage of Symetry continued it started getting a little worse every day - Tricep day I had to stop doing overhead crushers - the elbows where so bad - I stretched them and warmed up with a lot lighter weight and it seemed to let the tendons loosen up.

Doms also seemed to worsen as doseage continued.

USP - any idea of why this might of happened? Over tightening/strengthening of Tendon??? or something else?

 

[jmh80]

Probably lowered cortisol too far.

Size had the same issues when running Cissus with a bunch of other stuff.
(I did for a few days at the start of this PCT, but that has went away by going to 9 caps/day rather than 10.)