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thanatopsis

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I've been on Cissus for going on 2 years now and I don't think I'll be quitting.

On the note of healing... I started stacking Symmetry with Cissus about 3 weeks ago or so right about the time I started a new workout plan which called for quite a bit of above the head pressing. I have not been able to press above my head without pain for well over a year due to rotator cuff tendon inflammation.

Okay... Day 1 on the plan I do above-the head squats (hold the bar above my head and squat ATG). This feels sort of weird on the shoulders but I go ahead and finish. I cut the program short since it's new and pretty brutal and I was feeling crappy.

I get a cold the next day so I'm out for a week. During this week my tendons that normally HURT are actually *sore* like a muscle soreness. A week later when I get over my cold they don't hurt anymroe. WTF?! So I started doing clean and press with as much as 100 pounds and wow, it doesn't even cause discomfort. Same thing with DB lat pulls and other movements that used to hurt, no pain anymore.

What happened? Symmetry? Additive Cissus Effects over time? Something else? I don't know... but I'm going to go through another bottle of Symmetry and keep on my Cissus spree to be sure!

To be specific. The change was rapid, I didn't notice any progression towards less pain it just HAPPENED while I had my cold (I stayed on Symmetry and Cissus that week).

Anyone experience anything like this? I'll keep the thread up to date as any new developments come along.
 
The anabolic component of Symmetry has to be anabolic to Tendon and ligaments so the synergy of Cissus with the added anabolic component is an awesome anabolic.

People want instant effects with Symmetry but its a 2 week product for sure in terms of "feeling" the supplement. It's a very solid anabolic!
 
USPLabs said:
The anabolic component of Symmetry has to be anabolic to Tendon and ligaments so the synergy of Cissus with the added anabolic component is an awesome anabolic.

People want instant effects with Symmetry but its a 2 week product for sure in terms of "feeling" the supplement. It's a very solid anabolic!
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It must be something like that. I upped my clean and press to 110 pounds today (the largest 'pre-set' barbell we have at the gym) with no problems.

I was also able to do full front lateral raises with a 45 pound plate (both hands) no problem. I have been confined to to 10 pounds per hand for quite some time.

Also did some pull-ups which caused serious issue with my rear left rotator tendon for a long time.

If this sort of recovery keeps up I will be simply awestruck more than I am now.
 
thanatopsis said:
It must be something like that. I upped my clean and press to 110 pounds today (the largest 'pre-set' barbell we have at the gym) with no problems.

I was also able to do full front lateral raises with a 45 pound plate (both hands) no problem. I have been confined to to 10 pounds per hand for quite some time.

Also did some pull-ups which caused serious issue with my rear left rotator tendon for a long time.

If this sort of recovery keeps up I will be simply awestruck more than I am now.
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Are you using symmetry?
 
USPLabs said:
Are you using symmetry?
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Ah, perhaps my first post was a little vague. Yep, I am stacking Symmetry and Cissus. My Cissus usage has been ongoing for a LONG time (I was a direct customer of yours starting around June of 04 IIRC).

I bought Symmetry a few weeks ago and since I started that in addition to Cissus I have noticed these crazy effects on my tendons. I mean, honestly, they haven't felt like this in over a year... I took 2 months off lifting entirely (been back 2 months or so now) and they didn't feel this good.

My second bottle of Symmetry came in the mail today... worth every penny.
 
I would also like to note that I have experienced a very sudden gain of 3 pounds almost exactly coinciding with completion of my first bottle of Symmetry.

Diet did not change at all and training has actually shifted to MORE cardio. My weight was frozen for several weeks prior to this gain. I added biking 20 minutes per day at lunch time to my program and my in-gym routine has shifted to less rest and maintaining a high heart rate.
 
just started cissus and can feel a diffrence already-just wondering if cycling or PCT is requiered for these 2 products?
 
skull said:
just started cissus and can feel a diffrence already-just wondering if cycling or PCT is requiered for these 2 products?
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No, they can be used for PCT:jaw:
 
USPLabs said:
No, they can be used for PCT:jaw:
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so are you saying ,for example if I was to take symmetry for like 3 months and stopped , there would be no E rebound and no gyno?:blink:
 
skull said:
so are you saying ,for example if I was to take symmetry for like 3 months and stopped , there would be no E rebound and no gyno?:blink:
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Correct..
 
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