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The NEW product just became an OLD product! THis will product will never make it to the Market because we just discovered a more amazing anabolic...Maybe Maybe on Parr with PowerFULL or slightly stronger.

But Please do not trash these samples, One of the Active ingredients will make up the NEWER product. SO I still need your feedback!

The product you have has tribulus and another ingredient. Tribulus will not be part of the New product.

Dosing should be 4 caps 3 times daily. Morning 5-10 minutes before eating, about 30 minutes Pre-training, and 10 minutes before last meal of the day.

SOrry but enjoy the Free Product! New Product is so exciting!!!

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sean taylor said:
You guys are crazy :)
So you want a real log of just feedback after a few day ?
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Report back in 7, 14, 21, and 30th day ...sound fair? I will create a synopsis thread.
 
Ceosm,

Just got a package today, ziploc bag filled with yellow capsules.:) What's in them? Are these what's being discussed in this thread?

Thanks again bro!
BV
 
:woohoo: 266 pills in a ziploc sent to my work address!!!
QUESTION:
Alcohol - stay away, or cut back?
Cardio - stay away, cut back, or pick it up?
Diet - watch the carbs/calories or load up & enjoy the ride?

Workout will stay the same. One body part per day w/ abs following 3-4 times a week.

Took my 1st 4 pills tonight before dinner.. 2 cans of tuna w/ one sweet potatoe. Cardio tomorrow morning @ 0415!!! :head:
 
Yjyankee said:
:woohoo: 266 pills in a ziploc sent to my work address!!!
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:jaw:

I didnt think i could feel jipped on a free product. Did you want a shorter dose tester USP or was the 100 a mistake? Im still grateful, just curious.
 
USPLabs said:
Report back in 7, 14, 21, and 30th day ...sound fair? I will create a synopsis thread.
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product arrived, so i th update in 7 daysought i would put forth some starting stat's. weight 185lbs waist mearsurment 37"; arms 15 1/2"; chest 44 1/2"; legs 23"; diet mornings, 36 to 40 oz of coffee with 3/4 cup of dry oatmeal mid morning, typically a sandwich of about 1000 cals combined carbs and protein mid day, 6 to 8 oz of lean protein, salmon or chicken dinner, about 1500 cals carbs, prot's, fat, combined. i eat clean but don't get too retentive about macro count. training, one body part per day - pyramiding weight by 10lbs increments up and then down again. leg day - squats and if there is time left in the hour walking lunges chest day - flat BB press and decline DB press shoulder day - DB press and alternating DB rows, flys, and rear delt flys back day - pull-ups, pull-downs, and DB rows arm day - curl-bar curls, hammer-curls, tricep push-downs, hand-stand pushups, concentration curls i try to hit legs 2 days a, week 4 days apart. 2 days of rest. supps other than yellow mystery - fish oil and milk thistle. update in 7 days.
 
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take it for 14 days and report and after the 7th day if you like the product. I will send more to finish the log.

One compound in this product will be in the NEW product, but the tribulus will be exluded.

With the product that should make it to the market, you will only need 6-8 caps a day not 12-14.
 
alguard said:
What will you name this new product xtra powerfull
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haha they have another thread going where they are trying to pick out a name, maybe you should go suggest that and maybe some others. honestly i think for the sake of not confusing people (ie maxlmg and ergo maxlmmg) with similar but still different products, or you'll be havin some tard telling you that xtra powerfull is the methylated version LOL. so prob better to keep names unique. maybe you could use a derivative of the word that is the hidden ingredient or something like you did with cissus where the actual ingredeint is the name. for the sake of not having everyone rip you off though that prob wont happen though huh?
 
USPLabs said:
take it for 14 days and report and after the 7th day if you like the product. I will send more to finish the log.

One compound in this product will be in the NEW product, but the tribulus will be exluded.

With the product that should make it to the market, you will only need 6-8 caps a day not 12-14.
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Sounds good. I am on my 4th day so I will report back in 3. Hope I like it so I can get the rest!
 
take it for 14 days and report and after the 7th day if you like the product. I will send more to finish the log.

One compound in this product will be in the NEW product, but the tribulus will be exluded.

With the product that should make it to the market, you will only need 6-8 caps a day not 12-14.
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Thanks for the info bro...
 
I like xtra powerfull as well. But like amped amp and all the other versions, and the whole emax confusion it is probably not the best idea. I really wish my UnStoPpable name would have caught on. I thought that was brilliant in my own little mind :twisted: .
 
Not sure where to post for my 7 day so will do it here.
So after 7 days on 12 per day, split into 3x a day; AM, before WO, and PM, I have noticed a little more pumped feeling at the gym. My muscles are getting a good pump alot sooner. For example, on chest day I start with decline DB and then go to incline DB and usually my chest starts to swell about the 3rd set of the decline and by the second set of incline it looks and feels like I have done my whole chest routine. As far as size, I have not seen noticable size increase but I jsut eyeballed it and did not pull out the tape. I figure i need another week to start to notice size differenfce, kinda like PowerFULL was for me.
I did notice my pants getting looser even though I am not doing anymore cardio than usual and eating the same. Any ideas on that USP?
Now for my knee. I stopped my Cissus when I knew I would get to test this stuff to see how this would work on it. So I have been off the Cissus for about 2.5 weeks and the other day on leg day the overall lifts went up as my knee gets better but the next day the knee was more sore than usual. Kinda thinking of jumping back on the Cissus, or should I just wait this stuff out?
So far I like. Seems to me the same results as PowerFULL, just happening a little faster to me.
Check back in a week folks.
 
I'm only on day 4, but I love this stuff. Better pumps, "Cat can't scratch it type O' wood", overall feeling of being right, etc. Not terribly scientific, but it is honest. More to follow.
 
USPLabs said:
get back on that CISSUS!!!!
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I did not want to upset the testing condition by continuing the Cissus.
If you say it is ok and will still give you the testing results you want, them I am back on it sir :)
 
sean taylor said:
I did not want to upset the testing condition by continuing the Cissus.
If you say it is ok and will still give you the testing results you want, them I am back on it sir :)
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Keeping that Knee strong is most important!
 
sean taylor said:
I did not want to upset the testing condition by continuing the Cissus.
If you say it is ok and will still give you the testing results you want, them I am back on it sir :)
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keep taking it with the Cissus and report on the combo..fair?
 
USP ive got 3 weeks left on my SD/emax cycle....would u want me to start it on cycle cause i know exactly how im feeling on cycle or should i wait till PCT which is originally planned?


with respect and admiration,
RzO
 
tiggermoon said:
product arrived, so i th update in 7 daysought i would put forth some starting stat's. weight 185lbs waist mearsurment 37"; arms 15 1/2"; chest 44 1/2"; legs 23"; diet mornings, 36 to 40 oz of coffee with 3/4 cup of dry oatmeal mid morning, typically a sandwich of about 1000 cals combined carbs and protein mid day, 6 to 8 oz of lean protein, salmon or chicken dinner, about 1500 cals carbs, prot's, fat, combined. i eat clean but don't get too retentive about macro count. training, one body part per day - pyramiding weight by 10lbs increments up and then down again. leg day - squats and if there is time left in the hour walking lunges chest day - flat BB press and decline DB press shoulder day - DB press and alternating DB rows, flys, and rear delt flys back day - pull-ups, pull-downs, and DB rows arm day - curl-bar curls, hammer-curls, tricep push-downs, hand-stand pushups, concentration curls i try to hit legs 2 days a, week 4 days apart. 2 days of rest. supps other than yellow mystery - fish oil and milk thistle. update in 7 days.
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okay, 7 day update.
first of all the stat's - (all measurments are taken first thing in the morning before breakfast, so any changes are not due to PWO pumps)
weight stayed the same 185lbs.
arms are now 15 5/8", 1/8" gain
chest is now 45", 1/2" gain
legs are now 23 1/4", 1/4" gain
but there is also bad news,
waist is now 37 1/4", 1/4" gain:sad::sad::sad::sad:
let me add there was no change in diet/calorie count this week:wtf:
it took about 3 days to really feel the effects. but they are similar to the powerFull, the pumps make the muscles feel full and thick. after day 6, they seem to last almost 12 hours. slight strength gains but it is afterall only day 7. more noticeable is an increase in the number of reps per set at peak weight.

and as a side note, when you take this pre-wo try this, 4 yellow caps and 4 c2's with 12oz of water that has 2 tablespoons of applecider vinegar, :woohoo::woohoo:
felt like i could climb the empire state and do this to king kong :nutkick:

must be the vinegar really set it off.
 
I also have a 7th day update.
With no supplementation difference beyond the "old" product,
1.my weight has increased 2 pounds from 189 to 191.
2. I have seen increased pumps in the gym especially in the back and arms.
3. All workouts have increased in weight by at least 5 pounds. This is most noteworthy on my flat, incline and decline bench because I was stuck at repping 235 for 4 reps. Now doing 240 for 4 reps.
4. Overall i look and feel more lean and vascular.
5. Noticed a slight decrease in doms by day 4.

These are the most noteworthy difference.

Hey USP I have about 20 caps left due to having a set of 100. You said on my 7th day if I liked it to let you know. Should I email you?
 
johnfaceman said:
I also have a 7th day update.
With no supplementation difference beyond the "old" product,
1.my weight has increased 2 pounds from 189 to 191.
2. I have seen increased pumps in the gym especially in the back and arms.
3. All workouts have increased in weight by at least 5 pounds. This is most noteworthy on my flat, incline and decline bench because I was stuck at repping 235 for 4 reps. Now doing 240 for 4 reps.
4. Overall i look and feel more lean and vascular.
5. Noticed a slight decrease in doms by day 4.

These are the most noteworthy difference.

Hey USP I have about 20 caps left due to having a set of 100. You said on my 7th day if I liked it to let you know. Should I email you?
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Wow this is exciting!!!! Considering this product was improved before its release to the market!

Who ever needs more e-mail or pm..
 
USPLabs said:
Wow this is exciting!!!! Considering this product was improved before its release to the market!

Who ever needs more e-mail or pm..
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I dont want to kill any form of excitement but I thought I should note that I have been eating a bit more, which could be due to a feeling of a larger appetite. But this would also give reason to a two pound gain in weight. Ill email you USP. Thanks again for this.
 
Short update.
Last night was arms, I train bi's and tri's same night, alternating them throughout my routine
My arms are 19 1/4 cold. Halfway through my workout I could not curl anymore because the pump was insane! Got home and measured and they were 19 3/4 pumped. I get pumps from working out but dang!! Nothing like that.
I also got back on the Cissus and for some reason 9 Cissus 3x a day and 12 old betas 3x a day were giving me these excruciating headaches within 45 minutes of dosing ( since I dose both at the same time). Have sense cut back to 9 old beta and the headaches are gone.
Hell, if you have more lying around and they are not going to market, I would take some too. I think this stuff is great, maybe even a little better than PowerFULL.... (bold statement since I love PowerFULL).
You guys sure you don't wanna market this stuff as PowerFULL V.2??
 
sean taylor said:
Short update.
Last night was arms, I train bi's and tri's same night, alternating them throughout my routine
My arms are 19 1/4 cold. Halfway through my workout I could not curl anymore because the pump was insane! Got home and measured and they were 19 3/4 pumped. I get pumps from working out but dang!! Nothing like that.
I also got back on the Cissus and for some reason 9 Cissus 3x a day and 12 old betas 3x a day were giving me these excruciating headaches within 45 minutes of dosing ( since I dose both at the same time). Have sense cut back to 9 old beta and the headaches are gone.
Hell, if you have more lying around and they are not going to market, I would take some too. I think this stuff is great, maybe even a little better than PowerFULL.... (bold statement since I love PowerFULL).
You guys sure you don't wanna market this stuff as PowerFULL V.2??
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HAHA...we have a better name!!!!

Send address by e-mail for the beta.
 
I love this stuff!!! Pumps are awesome, and weight is down slightly - with more definition. Also, morning wood O' rama!

I would LOVE to have more!!!! I do not have PM ability - please let me know where I need to send an email. I'm impressed.
 
Day 7 update
Dropped all supps except C2, cissus, multi, flax, BCAA's, anti ox, and protein

No weight increase but I'm cutting so this is fine

noticed effects after 3 days

no decrease in strength if anything a slight increase

pumps are nice and muscles are full considering lack of glycogen

more vascular

good energy and endurance but this may be from C2

better recovery b/n training

deep sleep and weird fing dreams

I would like like to see how it works bulking :burger: but that's out of the question. So far I like it and would consider experimenting with dosage any suggestions? Thanks
 
Here is my seven day update. I have increased libido. My strength is up. My reps of flat bench at 315 up from 11 to 12. My weight is also up. However, I don't think that is all that significant given that my weight can fluctuate several pounds from day to day.

I really didn't expect much from this product. But I'm pleased with what I'm seeing so far. I would really have to run it for at least a month in order to give truly accurate feedback.
 
14 day update
My libido has gone through the roof. The crappy thing is my GF just left for some FBI training for her prison and that leaves me all alone for a week :(

On the training note, slight strength increase and really good pumps. Painful pumps sometime :)
My weight is up but also fluctuates but teh funny thing is I seem to have more definition in my ab area.
Also, I notice a decrease in recovery time. Usually after a good workout I have a little soreness the next day and alot more the second day after. I have not had that soreness the second day after nearly as bad as usual.

This is great stuff, can't wait to get some of the final product.
 
Pit,

Good catch on the dreams. Me too - although I have no idea if there is a dream/supplement correlation for me - I just can't tell. The dreams are sure vivid, though.
 
USP,

I think this has been discussed but just as a refresher, since this increases libido so much is PCT required?

Mr.50


Beau said:
Pit,

Good catch on the dreams. Me too - although I have no idea if there is a dream/supplement correlation for me - I just can't tell. The dreams are sure vivid, though.
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I believe you but then of course my main question is if it seems to have such a profound effect on libido but does not contribute to any hormonal disruption, then through what mechanism is it boosting libido?

Mr.50

sean taylor said:
Nope.
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Mr.50 said:
I believe you but then of course my main question is if it seems to have such a profound effect on libido but does not contribute to any hormonal disruption, then through what mechanism is it boosting libido?

Mr.50
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U can increase endogenous hormones without shutting down the system. PowerFULL increase libido but the system stays in tack.
 
Good point. But my understanding is that Powerfull increased libido by decreasing SHBG which created more free Test. Is that correct or incorrect? Can we expect that this new product works through a similar mechanism or no? The reason I ask is that this way we can best know what to combine with these products. For example if this is the mechanism through which the product works then it may be overkill to mix it with something like Activate.

Mr.50
USPLabs said:
U can increase endogenous hormones without shutting down the system. PowerFULL increase libido but the system stays in tack.
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Mr.50 said:
Good point. But my understanding is that Powerfull increased libido by decreasing SHBG which created more free Test. Is that correct or incorrect? Can we expect that this new product works through a similar mechanism or no? The reason I ask is that this way we can best know what to combine with these products. For example if this is the mechanism through which the product works then it may be overkill to mix it with something like Activate.

Mr.50
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If it does bind to SHBG freeing up test it could be overkill to include activate.
 
If Powerful is rich in plant lingans, then there's a very good possiblity it could have binding properties with SHBG. From what I understand, *all* plant lingans bind to SHBG, but those founding in Nettle root have the strongest affinity.

Might be more than just EFA's that make supplementing with Flax oil a good choice for the bodybuilder.

BV
 
Oh you were serious, I thought it was a response along the lines of "proprietary blend" . Ah, so we know it works but none of us are sure why. Thats fair, USP are there any other theories out there about how it may work, because it does work and I wish I could just figure out a likely mechanism. Thanks bro.

USPLabs said:
Honest response sir, we have no clue if it binds....
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