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cAMPHIBOLIC and PCT, cutting

j_neatherlin

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I have been interested in cAMPHIBOLIC for quite some time and have been recently reading up on it.

Soon, I will going into PCT after a cutting cycle. I have Nolva + Clomid to run as PCT. I know that you're supposed to bump calories up during PCT, but ideally, I would like to continue cutting...but not if the cost will be a considerable amount of muscle.

Would running cAMPHIBOLIC along with Nolva/Clomid allow me to continue leaning out through PCT (I'm not where I want to be as far as bf levels are concerned) while not losing too much muscle? Or should I just bump calories up?

In order to give cAMPHIBOLIC the best shake (will probably keep a log on bb.com) as a cutter, should I save it for after PCT? Because, I'm really not all that concerned with it's benefits as a PCT adjunct - unless you think that Nolva/Clomid/cAMP w/ low calories will product very good results.
 
im not too cluey on the Nolva and stuff, but if ur looking to cut and not lose muscle whilst on a calorie deficit, i reckon u'll find C-AMP will help in maintaining ur current LBM. Have a look at my old log in here where I was cutting whilst on a calorie deficit.
 
yeah, from what I gather C-AMP should work well as a cut...but I guess what I was really trying to get at in my kind of erratic post was should I run C-AMP and cut during PCT or would that be playing with fire (ie C-AMP would be best used as either PCT or as a cutter, but not both simultaneously)
 
cAMP will assist in preserving LBM during PCT as well as assist in leaning out.

I would go ahead and go with your original plan to keep calories where they are at and if you start to see a loss of lbm in any fashion bump them up a notch.

I am confident in cAMP's ability to preserve lbm while cutting in a caloric deficit on low carbs. It assisted me considerably and I will continue to use it during PCT myself while keeping calories low.

I am in the same boat as you right now and know cAMP will assist me, even during PCT, in meeting my cutting goals by helping drop this last little body fat. I'll be running it stacked with Nolva/6OXO.
 
I hope it works. I tried to do the same thing after a bulker superdrol cycle that I thought I gained too much fat on, but with clen. Didn't work and I lost about 60% of my gains if I think about it too much, I start to tear up a little. :sad: If you can keep a log or something, I know I would appreciate it.
 
If I run the C-AMP, I will keep a log. Definitely over on bb.com and over here if yall would like.

My biggest concern as far as logging is that I am moving soon, and although I don't intend to run C-AMP for another month or so, I don't know what my internet access will be like after the move.

Another question: I am a big fan of chewing nicotine gum whenever I supplement with caffeine. Would this be a-okay with the C-AMP? The nicotine is not something that I have to do...but the research supports that it's a solid addition. Also, if you all would like more of a pure review, I can reconsider (maybe ;) )
 
j_neatherlin said:
If I run the C-AMP, I will keep a log. Definitely over on bb.com and over here if yall would like.

My biggest concern as far as logging is that I am moving soon, and although I don't intend to run C-AMP for another month or so, I don't know what my internet access will be like after the move.

Another question: I am a big fan of chewing nicotine gum whenever I supplement with caffeine. Would this be a-okay with the C-AMP? The nicotine is not something that I have to do...but the research supports that it's a solid addition. Also, if you all would like more of a pure review, I can reconsider (maybe ;) )
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Nicotine would be a nice addition.

I would not continue and extreme cut during PCT! You will be pleasantly surprised on how well cAMPHIBOLIC will allow you to avoid fat accumulation and help in LBM retention.

If you can afford Cissus, I would make it a point to include PCT to deal with cortisol issues.

ceosm
 
Very nice additions CEOSM and I couldn't agree more.

I used nicotine on a 6 week mini cut back in the Fall and it worked tremendously to help me cut down. I would highly recommend it alongside cAMP/Cissus!!
 
maybe i will run C-AMP with PCT and just try to prevent any major fat accrual, then give MP a whirl for a month and then C-AMP for a month.

Thanks for the input fellas.

And yes Adawg, the research supports nicotine as a bad ass addition to caffeine in a cut.
 
For those interested I will be running PCT with the USP Labs products after using Supedrol for a recomp (which worked very well, I'm also currently using cAMP with it for the fatloss effects and to help my shoulders, works awesome). My daily plan is the following:

PCT Supps
Clomid - 50mg x 2
cAMP - 3,3,2 caps
Cissus RX - 2,2,2 caps
Ultra HOT - 2 caps (night)
Lean Xtreme - 1(morning) ,2(night) caps

Regular Supps
Xtend
NitroJet
Glucophase XR
NAC
Beta-Alanine
L-Theanine
ZMA
B5

Hopefully I will continue to recomp, but maintaining mass and getting a little leaner would not be disappointing.
 
I would switch the lean extreme to two caps in the morning and one cap mid day...other than that, looks fine....I'm on cissus rx right now in my first week of pct and I really like it...pumps are great and cortisol suppression is a big plus
 
I think it's a great supplement. I workout first thing in the morning (usually), so I've been fasting for at least 7 hours. Because of this, catabolism and energy is obviously a concern of mine, my body is not quite awake at 6am after having only been up for about 45 minutes. So, the EAA content (and theoretically the HMB and phosphatidylserine content) should provide aid with both of these issues (free form amino acids enter the blood MUCH faster than whole proteins).

That is only part of my preworkout cocktail though. I combine a serving of NitroJet with a serving of Xtend, 1g NAC, 1.5g Beta-Alanine, 2g ALCAR, 1.5g Tyrosine, and 3g CEE. Yeah, it's a lot, but the results have been glorious.
 
JESUS CHRIST MAN, that's way too early

Bro, does that nitrojet and ur other pre workout stack need to be taken on an empty stomach?

When i have funds i'd def try that stack out, sounds like the shiznit to me

P
 
For me it's either 6am or 6:30pm (after having been at work writing code for 9 hours and a 45 minute commute to the gym). If I have to workout in the evening, the workouts are never as good as my morning workouts, so it's an easy decision for me. Plus I feel it has favorable effects on body composition.

Yes, it's a good stack, I could always add more to it, but I have to draw the line somewhere. I may switch out ALCAR for PLCAR, and perhaps add L-Histidine. Who knows...there's so much out there.
 
ok i got ya man

write code?

45 min commute in the evenin, SHIZAT that sux ass man

Ya there are lots of options on the stacks like that but it's always good to hear about somebody who is using "one" of them, ya know

how long before a workout do u take all that ****?

P
 
"Write code" = I'm a computer programmer

I seem to get the best results from it when I start drinking it 45 minutes before my workout and finishing it 15 minutes before I actually start lifting. Basically, everything needs some time to enter the blood stream and become available.
 
i couldn't take bein in front of a comp all day, good for u bro

How long after ur last meal do you "start" drinking/taking that stuff ?

LATA
 
Like I said, I usually workout in the morning. If not, my last meal is around 1pm when I have lunch. But then I sip on a shake for the remainder of the workday.
 
Adawg said:
i couldn't take bein in front of a comp all day, good for u bro

How long after ur last meal do you "start" drinking/taking that stuff ?

LATA
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Sitting in front of a comp all day is good stuff.

You could take it. I mean, you'd be able to keep track of what's going on AM all the time plus well, its the perfect environment for bulking anyway.

Write code
Throw food
Write code
Throw food
Caffeine break
Write code
Throw food
Write code
End day

Well, thats a good way to become a fat ass too. Luckily you'd have cAMP in hand to prevent that.
 
so u workout on an empty for ur morning sessions, ouch man i couldn't do that one

thanks for the info bro

sounds enticing
 
miked512 said:
Sitting in front of a comp all day is good stuff.

You could take it. I mean, you'd be able to keep track of what's going on AM all the time plus well, its the perfect environment for bulking anyway.

Write code
Throw food
Write code
Throw food
Caffeine break
Write code
Throw food
Write code
End day

Well, thats a good way to become a fat ass too. Luckily you'd have cAMP in hand to prevent that.
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Ok well, maybe I could, not sure, im not a computer guy at all so i doubt i could get a job doin somethin like that to begin with, but ur remark is well considered :)

And if the work day was based exactly on ur outline, no sweat haha

how's everything in hotlanta bro
 
Adawg said:
so u workout on an empty for ur morning sessions, ouch man i couldn't do that one
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Yes, hence my desire for fast absorbing BCAAs and EAAs.

And yeah, sitting in front of a computer all day makes it easy to grow...well easier anyway since gains don't come easy for me at all...damn skinny-fat ectomorph genes.
 
I Feel Ya!!

Onslaught said:
.And yeah, sitting in front of a computer all day makes it easy to grow...well easier anyway since gains don't come easy for me at all...damn skinny-fat ectomorph genes.
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Considering that I gain weight by osmosis, literally just thinking about it, sitting in front a computer all day makes it super, super easy for me to grow as well. I am totally feelin' in that regard and I believe we are fortunate to be in positions that allow us to cater our lifestyles in such a manner.

I have worked jobs that are physical and it makes it hard to put on the weight, and for me that's unheard of. Sitting at work all day knowing I am recovering from a hardcore workout and growing brings much satisfaction into my life!!
 
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