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Just recieved my Cissus Quadrangularis from USPLabs/Synergy.
After reading supaman's cAMPHIBOLIC log on the Synergy forum, I was intrigued by his reported amelioration of tendonitis symptoms from a chronic brachialis injury. The reason for my interest is that I just happen to be suffering from INTENSE tendonitis in both elbows and right shoulder. After a long layoff, I have recently decided to resume MMA/Brazilian jiu-jitsu training. Aside from the usual aches and pains of being in poor shape, things were going fine until my 3rd week. Suddenly, I began to experience debilitating pain in the elbows and shoulder after training sessions. Over the next several days, the pain grew to the point that presently, I am only able to drill technique and MAYBE grapple for a single 6 minute session applying ice packs to both arms immediately following. I have noticed that if I "push it" to a second or third session, the tendonitis is more intense, and lasts longer with each recurring irritation.
So I have decided to see if Cissus will help me with this condition and hopefully I can provide some useful feedback for board members that may be trying to cope with similar nagging injuries.
From the text that Bobo posted, here are the "highlights" that grabbed my attention:
Although the bulk of the research on Cissus centers around bone healing, the possibility exists that Cissus may act to improve bone healing it may improve the healing rate of connective tissue in general, including tendons. If this is the case it would be of great benefit to bodybuilders and athletes.
The typical recommended daily dosage of Cissus extract is between 100 and 500 mg, depending on the concentration of the extract and the severity of symptoms. For the powder of the dried plant, the Ayurvedic texts recommend a dosage of 3 to 6 grams to accelerate fracture healing. Safety studies in rats showed no toxic effects at dosages as high as 2000 mg/kg of body weight. So not only is Cissus efficacious, it is also quite safe, in either the dried powder form or the commercially available extract
Cissus also possess analgesic properties on a mg per mg basis comparable to aspirin or anti-inflammatory drugs like ibuprofen. The mechanism through which Cissus exerts its analgesic and anti-inflammatory properties has not been well characterized. It may act centrally, but the anti-inflammatory features suggest that it acts by preventing the conversion of arachidonic acid to inflammatory prostaglandins.
So basically, I'm looking for a supplement that is safe to take which:
A. Reduces pain and inflammation
B. Promotes more rapid healing of the tendons
I have received 195 x 600mg capsules of the Cissus Quadrangularis (found in cAMPHIBOLIC) from USPLabs. My first experience ordering from them was nothing short of excellent as I have noted in a previous post.
Dosing protocol will be slightly above the midrange outlined in the referenced article (3-6g daily) at 4.8g. I plan to take 4 caps AM and 4 caps PM (most likely 30 minutes before training to gauge the analgesic effect).
As my purpose is to provide the most helpful feedback possible, I will be taking no other supplements during this experiment and I will remain open to suggestions on dosage and timing to those more knowledgeable about this product than myself.
The only "X factor" I can think of offhand in this log will be my training. Initially, I will only be training jiu-jitsu/MMA 3 days per week. Training consists of approx. 1 hour of technique instruction and 4 "sets" of live grappling available at 5-6 minutes per session with a 2-3 minute rest between sets. Currently, I am only able to do technique drills and 1 "set" of grappling before the tendonitis sets in. My goal is to reach 4 "sets" 3 days per week. Once I have achieved that goal, I will look to add an additional training day and some weight training/ bodyweight conditioning.
I will begin tomorrow (Saturday Feb. 26th) with 4 caps and a 10:30am training session.
Wish me luck! :cheers:
Just recieved my Cissus Quadrangularis from USPLabs/Synergy.
After reading supaman's cAMPHIBOLIC log on the Synergy forum, I was intrigued by his reported amelioration of tendonitis symptoms from a chronic brachialis injury. The reason for my interest is that I just happen to be suffering from INTENSE tendonitis in both elbows and right shoulder. After a long layoff, I have recently decided to resume MMA/Brazilian jiu-jitsu training. Aside from the usual aches and pains of being in poor shape, things were going fine until my 3rd week. Suddenly, I began to experience debilitating pain in the elbows and shoulder after training sessions. Over the next several days, the pain grew to the point that presently, I am only able to drill technique and MAYBE grapple for a single 6 minute session applying ice packs to both arms immediately following. I have noticed that if I "push it" to a second or third session, the tendonitis is more intense, and lasts longer with each recurring irritation.
So I have decided to see if Cissus will help me with this condition and hopefully I can provide some useful feedback for board members that may be trying to cope with similar nagging injuries.
From the text that Bobo posted, here are the "highlights" that grabbed my attention:
Although the bulk of the research on Cissus centers around bone healing, the possibility exists that Cissus may act to improve bone healing it may improve the healing rate of connective tissue in general, including tendons. If this is the case it would be of great benefit to bodybuilders and athletes.
The typical recommended daily dosage of Cissus extract is between 100 and 500 mg, depending on the concentration of the extract and the severity of symptoms. For the powder of the dried plant, the Ayurvedic texts recommend a dosage of 3 to 6 grams to accelerate fracture healing. Safety studies in rats showed no toxic effects at dosages as high as 2000 mg/kg of body weight. So not only is Cissus efficacious, it is also quite safe, in either the dried powder form or the commercially available extract
Cissus also possess analgesic properties on a mg per mg basis comparable to aspirin or anti-inflammatory drugs like ibuprofen. The mechanism through which Cissus exerts its analgesic and anti-inflammatory properties has not been well characterized. It may act centrally, but the anti-inflammatory features suggest that it acts by preventing the conversion of arachidonic acid to inflammatory prostaglandins.
So basically, I'm looking for a supplement that is safe to take which:
A. Reduces pain and inflammation
B. Promotes more rapid healing of the tendons
I have received 195 x 600mg capsules of the Cissus Quadrangularis (found in cAMPHIBOLIC) from USPLabs. My first experience ordering from them was nothing short of excellent as I have noted in a previous post.
Dosing protocol will be slightly above the midrange outlined in the referenced article (3-6g daily) at 4.8g. I plan to take 4 caps AM and 4 caps PM (most likely 30 minutes before training to gauge the analgesic effect).
As my purpose is to provide the most helpful feedback possible, I will be taking no other supplements during this experiment and I will remain open to suggestions on dosage and timing to those more knowledgeable about this product than myself.
The only "X factor" I can think of offhand in this log will be my training. Initially, I will only be training jiu-jitsu/MMA 3 days per week. Training consists of approx. 1 hour of technique instruction and 4 "sets" of live grappling available at 5-6 minutes per session with a 2-3 minute rest between sets. Currently, I am only able to do technique drills and 1 "set" of grappling before the tendonitis sets in. My goal is to reach 4 "sets" 3 days per week. Once I have achieved that goal, I will look to add an additional training day and some weight training/ bodyweight conditioning.
I will begin tomorrow (Saturday Feb. 26th) with 4 caps and a 10:30am training session.
Wish me luck! :cheers: