thanks for the feedback guys,truly helpfull, for some reason i'm feeling prime w/dtp but heard alot about prime/testopro. I'll give it about an hour or two before i place the order and with NP being out of stock with testopro it's lookin like prime w/dtp. but i'll just wait it out for a few more replies and see if the testopro is worth the wait,though heard nothin but positive things about it.( i mean thats why the stuff is sold out right?)