A True VAT Attack Log.
- 07-18-2009, 01:38 PM
A True VAT Attack Log.
I just received my first tub of VAT Attack yesterday. When it was released I was already interested in trying it, I've been using bulk cissus and bulk 1-c and both are effective at what they're made to do. So I wanted to give VAT a try during my recomp. The only difference is that, in everyone's logs VAT Attack is used along side Recreate or other fat burners/supps. For experiments sake I'm gonna run VAT as my only "fat burner."
Currently I'm 21 at 5'9" and 180-185 lbs. I have been recomping and will keep my calories around 2000-2400. I'll post up pics of day 1 later.
As for diet, I went all out last night for a last cheat so I could stay strict for this log. And supps will include protein, bulk 1-c before bed, and cissus on game days to keep the arm from hurting (softball).
- 07-18-2009, 03:02 PM
07-18-2009, 04:02 PM
07-18-2009, 06:45 PM
07-18-2009, 07:32 PM
07-18-2009, 09:17 PM
07-19-2009, 08:15 AM
I clicked fat lost on the poll but wanted to elaborate by saying I would describe at as a narrowing of the waist. Every couple of days I noticed it now. At first I saw it and thought damn I don't remember ever having this look. Since then my waist appears to be even smaller and I have not lost weight (largely due to the other supps Prime/AP Product X), as a matter of fact my weight is increased.
07-19-2009, 02:13 PM
07-19-2009, 02:30 PM
07-19-2009, 03:24 PM
same with me. im carrying a little extra BF in these pics because I have been traveling more in the past month, and while away i had very little control over the diet so i was mostly eating burgers or steaks just to keep cals and protein up as much as possible. but now that i'm on VAT i'm back to a strict diet.
First Workout tomorrow.
07-19-2009, 07:58 PM
07-19-2009, 11:28 PM
I have been taking it since a little after it came out. Like DW, I am endo-meso and have noticed the same thing...usually I have really pronounced man-handles and can't seem to shake them until I get really lean (10% bf or so).
Since I started taking it I def. noticed my midsection looking more cut, even at a time when I am having difficulty getting to the gym and getting enough workouts.
07-20-2009, 03:59 PM
Cool, I'm excited to see what it does for me.
Today was the first work out. Nothing spectacular, but nothing was expected. Cals are at 2,200 for now. Enough to keep strength up and lose BF.
Fasted cardio with aminos tomorrow morning.
Pics up at the end of the week.
I can post diet, but its pretty much basic. Oats, chicken/turkey, nuts/oils, steak...
I carb cycle slightly. Mondays and Tuesdays are my highest carb days...the rest of the week its really just carbs around physical activity.
07-20-2009, 05:52 PM
subb'd, i wanna look into getting Vat Attack sometime late august/early sept. Cant wait to see how it fair for you.
07-23-2009, 03:09 AM
07-23-2009, 12:12 PM
07-23-2009, 08:41 PM
I have noticed a huge difference also in the past week I have stopped drinking coffee and am approaching 180...was stalled around 186 or so. Apparently caffeine really does raise cortisol levels.
07-23-2009, 09:29 PM
Thanks for your log - because of it stumbled upon the caffiene-cortisol connection.
Cortisol responses to mental stress, exercise, and meals following caffeine intake in men and women.Lovallo WR, Farag NH, Vincent AS, Thomas TL, Wilson MF.
Veterans Affairs Medical Center, Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center, Oklahoma City, OK 73104, USA. [email protected]
Caffeine elevates cortisol secretion, and caffeine is often consumed in conjunction with exercise or mental stress. The interactions of caffeine and stress on cortisol secretion have not been explored adequately in women. We measured cortisol levels at eight times on days when healthy men and women consumed caffeine (250 mg x 3) and underwent either mental stress or dynamic exercise protocols, followed by a midday meal, in a double blind, placebo-controlled, crossover design. Men and women had similar cortisol levels at the predrug baselines, but they responded differently to mental stress and exercise. The cortisol response to mental stress was smaller in women than in men (p=.003). Caffeine acted in concert with mental stress to further increase cortisol levels (p=.011), the effect was similar in men and women. Exercise alone did not increase cortisol, but caffeine taken before exercise elevated cortisol in both men and women (ps<.05). After a postexercise meal, the women had a larger cortisol response than the men, and this effect was greater after caffeine (p<.01). Cortisol release in response to stress and caffeine therefore appears to be a function of the type of stressor and the sex of the subject. However, repeated caffeine doses increased cortisol levels across the test day without regard to the sex of the subject or type of stressor employed (p<.00001). Caffeine may elevate cortisol by stimulating the central nervous system in men but may interact with peripheral metabolic mechanisms in women.
PMID: 16631247 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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Will be following closely
07-24-2009, 12:17 PM
07-25-2009, 12:06 AM
Ain't that the truth!
But, try giving up coffee if you can. I have stopped drinking coffee whilst taking Vat Attack and been kind of "shocked" how much smaller my waist is -- even moreso than other times when I was just as lean! At age 42!
Same experience as DW mentioned.
07-25-2009, 01:09 AM
I don't drink much coffee... not in the summer at least.
I'm more into green tea. I make some hot, and then ice it down.
and my waist is definitely shrinking...and tomorrow is only the end of week 1!
07-25-2009, 01:50 PM
uploading some pictures of 1 week in. Probably don't see it much in the pictures, but I'm leaning out. Every morning I wake up and see it in the mirror, a little leaner.
Anyway the logs been a little slow, because this is the first week. Also this week I've bought a new phone, and I'm in the process of looking for a specific car so thats been crazy.
If you have any questions just let me know.
07-25-2009, 06:19 PM
07-25-2009, 06:20 PM
07-26-2009, 10:16 AM
07-26-2009, 01:07 PM
And this first week, my calories were strictly under control, but not necessarily always the best food sources. Plus I missed Friday's workout and haven't begun my morning fasted cardio on Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday.
To me, this really shows the results of VAT Attack.
Most guys out there aren't competing, and on top of it live normal lives...which include inconveniences and a lot of times not a perfect diet. So I hope this log can be helpful to them.
07-26-2009, 01:43 PM
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