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Old 05-14-2009, 09:27 AM  
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New Special Powder by USPowders is???
A natural selective NONHORMONAL inhibitor of the enzyme 11-B-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type 1.

50% coffee extract which is the equivalent to drinking about 100 expressos without the caffiene.


Who can name the hormonal inhibitior of the same enzyme?
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:31 AM  
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cortisol/ cortisone
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:35 AM  
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cortisol/ cortisone
We are selectively inhibiting cortisol through selective inhibition of 11-B-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type 1.

What hormonal product on the market claims the same action?
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:35 AM  
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Who can tell why this is so sexy(non hormonal inhibition)? Best answer recieves 200 free grams.
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Good guesses
I'll take Growth Hormone, Alex

Sexy because we're under stress and have more cortisol than we need, and it's a great way to get shredded!
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i did read that it controls insulin sensitivity and that this is used to reduce the sensitivity.


edit: believe it is 11oxo. And it is somewhat nice to see a hopeful cortisol reducing product because it decreased body fat and insulin sensitivity without the possible effects of shutdown and all the other trouble that needs to be gone through to bring T levels and the rest of hormones to a normal range
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:39 AM  
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i did read that it controls insulin sensitivity and that this is used to reduce the sensitivity.
Yup; you should read the study http://www.eje-online.org/cgi/reprint/154/1/69.pdf

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Results: In the GH-treated group the 11bHSD1 activity decreased transiently after 6 weeks (P , 0.01) whereas 11bHSD2 increased after 9 months of treatment (P , 0.05). Between 6 weeks and 9 months, GDR increased and visceral fat mass decreased. Changes in 11bHSD1 correlated with changes in visceral fat mass between baseline and 6 weeks. There were no significant correlations between 11bHSD1 and 11bHSD 2 and changes in GDR.

Discussion: The study demonstrates that short- and long-term GH treatment has different effects on 11bHSD1 and 11bHSD2 activity. Moreover, the data do not support that long-term metabolic effects of GH are mediated through its action on 11bHSD.
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ErgoPharm 11-OXO ---thats the product
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yeah steve i read a few of them interesting
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Gah, I see your ninja edit. And just a reminder, 11-oxo is hormonal.
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Visceral fat attack!

Steveoph just named the product!
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It turns off glucocorticoids, and binds all oxidized LDL together
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an anzyme inhibitor?
is it suicidal?
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This is pretty exciting. When will it be released?
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what will it do?
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Maybe try VAT Attack? Sort of sounds like fat, and VAT + Visceral Adipose Tissue. Double Entendre there.
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all these new high speed fat burners for the summer!! Gotta love it!
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Bulk 11oxo, I have read a bit about 11oxo saying that it had to be dosed quite liberally. I guess this will make it so it makes more sense economically.
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This is pretty exciting. When will it be released?
Very exciting!

It's an ingredient in Recreate and the powder is in the air, lands at the airport Monday and should be released from customs a couple days following that and directly shipped over to NP for an exclusive sale...

Recreate is a tremendously effective fat burner but I've been playing with 2 grams a day extra of the CB extract with the SixPack stack plu PRIME and the leaning effect is faster and the midsection feels super tight.

With whats in recreate, I built up to using 3.5 grams a day.

I've also added Tumeric and Green tea to the mix..
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Cool, just in time for cutting
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Any guesses on the price?
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ok i am confused. is this bulk 11-oxo or is it something else. is there a COA?
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Old 05-14-2009, 11:15 AM  
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limited run 100grams 19.99!

3 grams a day 30 day supply...
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ok i am confused. is this bulk 11-oxo or is it something else. is there a COA?
Different although you're still sort of playing with your hormones since cortisol is a hormone. This stuff is an enzymatic inhibitor. 11-B-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type 1 converts cortisone to cortisol within adipose tissue.
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Different although you're still sort of playing with your hormones since cortisol is a hormone. This stuff is an enzymatic inhibitor. 11-B-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type 1 converts cortisone to cortisol within adipose tissue.
you are not inhibiting complete suppression of cortisol which would be bad but 11-Oxo is hormonal that it will inhibit testosterone production....
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Very exciting!

It's an ingredient in Recreate and the powder is in the air, lands at the airport Monday and should be released from customs a couple days following that and directly shipped over to NP for an exclusive sale...

Recreate is a tremendously effective fat burner but I've been playing with 2 grams a day extra of the CB extract with the SixPack stack plu PRIME and the leaning effect is faster and the midsection feels super tight.

With whats in recreate, I built up to using 3.5 grams a day.

I've also added Tumeric and Green tea to the mix..
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limited run 100grams 19.99!

3 grams a day 30 day supply...
How limited.
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Yea some dude in post 25 has a pretty good guess
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Worth the wait. All the complainers in previous thread obviously have no life.
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