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Yet more AP questions!!!

Pippie

Pippie

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How do you determine where your muscle glycogen saturation point is when using AP?

When you reach this point presumably your muscles spill over and any excess not used will be converted to fat???

As AP needs complex carbs to work, if you are taking it say after a workout and you are using a combo of simple and complex carbs, do you only take into account the carb weight of the complex carbs? For example, I have 50g carbs post workout, 20 g coming from simple and 30g from complex. For the AP to work properly do I need to increase the complex to 50g?

If you are having a cheat meal and take 1 AP beforehand, then during the meal you end up eating more than you thought, is it ok to take another one afterwards or is it waste of time? Alternately if you were to take 2 beforehand and not eat as much as planned, what effect would that have with the AP?

Generally, cheat meal tends to comprise less complex carbs such as potato, white pasta, rice, bread and maybe a pudding or some chocolate. Is taking AP going to have any effect on these carbs as they are not all complex?

Sorry for all the questions, but I want to learn as much as possible about the supplements that I am taking, and the effects they have on my body.:boggled:

:thanks:
 
For me there is some guesswork but sometimes when I take a cup of oats after AP I get a bit hypo-glycemic, so I know it works well.

As far as cheat meals I would just take 2 or add some plsin... I would make sure I was covered for the carbs I was eating.

I'm not an expert so will be interested in the additional input from the reps.
 
DreamWeaver said:
For me there is some guesswork but sometimes when I take a cup of oats after AP I get a bit hypo-glycemic, so I know it works well.

As far as cheat meals I would just take 2 or add some plsin... I would make sure I was covered for the carbs I was eating.

I'm not an expert so will be interested in the additional input from the reps.
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I dont get hypo feeling at all. Does that mean that Im having too many carbs???
 
I wouldnt really worry about too many carbs the beauty of AP is that it doesn't convert glucose to fat complex carbs work the best but you can really use it for any high carb meal just try and make most of them complex I've used this stuff for years and for me even 80 grams of carbs isnt too much heck when I go eat sushi I'll pop one before downing 2-3 huge rolls thats gotta be like way over 100 grams of carbs and not feel bloated so just play around with it a little
 
Pippie said:
Doesnt look like any reps are answering, lol.
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I'll try to keep my response simple.

1) You can determine what you called "muscle saturation point" by trial and error. Start with about 25-30g (or more, depending on your normal intake) of carbohydrates (with your regular AP doses) for a few days; then increase your carb intake slowly (in 5-10g steps). The objective is to determine the amount of carbohydrates that gives you the most noticeable muscle-fullness/hardness without post-prandial discomfort (post-meal feeling of discomfort and bloat). Obviously, one needs to understand one's body well to figure out the optimum in carbohydrate intake.
2) AP prevents glycogen storage in adipose cells. Up to a point, though, as AP is not designed to support an endless carbohydrate binge.
3) AP works with both complex and simple carbohydrates. Complex carbs are preferred. If your carb intake is a mix of both carb types, then you should count both, not just the complex carbs.
4) If you took an AP before a cheat meal, there would be no need to take another afterwards, as GLUT-4 activation would have occured already.
If you took two AP and ate less than planned, the AP will work nevertheless. You may end up feeling hypo, though.
5) AP will still work, even if your cheat meals are comprised of mostly simple carbs.
 
strategicmove said:
I'll try to keep my response simple.

1) You can determine what you called "muscle saturation point" by trial and error. Start with about 25-30g (or more, depending on your normal intake) of carbohydrates (with your regular AP doses) for a few days; then increase your carb intake slowly (in 5-10g steps). The objective is to determine the amount of carbohydrates that gives you the most noticeable muscle-fullness/hardness without post-prandial discomfort (post-meal feeling of discomfort and bloat). Obviously, one needs to understand one's body well to figure out the optimum in carbohydrate intake.
2) AP prevents glycogen storage in adipose cells. Up to a point, though, as AP is not designed to support an endless carbohydrate binge.
3) AP works with both complex and simple carbohydrates. Complex carbs are preferred. If your carb intake is a mix of both carb types, then you should count both, not just the complex carbs.
4) If you took an AP before a cheat meal, there would be no need to take another afterwards, as GLUT-4 activation would have occured already.
If you took two AP and ate less than planned, the AP will work nevertheless. You may end up feeling hypo, though.
5) AP will still work, even if your cheat meals are comprised of mostly simple carbs.
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To expand on number 2 about the carbohydrate binge..

For example, you ordinarily gain fat on 200grams of carbohydrates a day. Including AP will reverse that fact and lead the carbohydrates away from adipose into muscle cells, and AP is not a golden opportunity to eat donuts and ice cream.

This is a huge reason AP formula will never be changed because it is perfect and all the mock products that include insulin sanitizers do not grasp the point.

Why would you include a supplement that potentiates insulin release? We do not want that with AP. AP works independent of insulin and the only reason you can gain muscle and lose fat is because it works independent of insulin. You cannot potentiate insulin release and lose fat...never.

Even sillier to potentiate insulin release and add insulin sensitizers to the formula...I call that fat pill...
 
Thankyou so much for your replies. I really appreciate you taking the time to respond to my questions.

I do feel like AP is working well for me. I am surprised at the amount off carbs that I can consume with it and still manage my bodyfat.

I don't eat junk food, but it is great being able to increase the amount of quality carbs that I am taking in to fuel my workouts.

Thanks again for your help. I hope that it has answered others peoples questions too.
 
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