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Bulk 1-carboxy and bulk cissus RX safe??

Alright guys, I have been through 2 bottles of so of powerful in the past and liked it for the most part. I used it for sleep only, but now I'm going to dose it after workouts also, or maybe even before.

I ran into this thread
powerfull vs Bulk 1-carboxy-2-amino-3-pyrobenzo

amongst others, stating that its not safe, no one know 100% what it is ( I thought it was l-dopa, as I see tons of threads calling it that )


Same with the cissus I ran across threads stating that it can mess with the estrogen levels in your blood ect.

I have done research on these and they seem safe and I havent seen anything negative on them. I have seen countless logs on them stating that they havent had any negatives yet.

Thanks!
I posted this here because I received NO response over at the supp section.
 
I didnt think so but PA was kinda throwing me a curve ball there...

whats the dose for cissus RX and powerfull?

Im wanting to run cissus prolly 2g AM 2g PM and powerfull ( is it pre or post workout? ) and maybe at night. I also read that these cannot be ran all year long. they must be cycled liked every 30 days or so, true?
 
I didnt think so but PA was kinda throwing me a curve ball there...

whats the dose for cissus RX and powerfull?

Im wanting to run cissus prolly 2g AM 2g PM and powerfull ( is it pre or post workout? ) and maybe at night. I also read that these cannot be ran all year long. they must be cycled liked every 30 days or so, true?

actually running both now...cissus 2g am/pm...1-c 1.5g pre-bed 5 on/2 off protocol..i dont run either religiously; will skip a day or two depending...but i normally go to abt 45 days with these supps...
 
I thought I saw somewhere on here to run the 1-C 3x a day.. I tried that the past few days & was really sleep @ work. Not good! I've gone back to just dosing it at night along w/ the bulk cissus & supersap.

Would it be OK to also take bulk AAKG, Cit Malate, & CEE w/ that same night time dosing?

Thanks
 
If you dose 1-C, some must use it with a stimulant for this issue. When GH is released, you will become very lethargic.
 
OK. Thinking back, I took 5mg of Yohimbine HCI from Primaforce.. I was hoping for more energy from that, but it's minimal at best..
 
OK. Thinking back, I took 5mg of Yohimbine HCI from Primaforce.. I was hoping for more energy from that, but it's minimal at best..

I can't do Yohimbine, I have been doing 1 scoop of Jack3d, 1 capsule of Recreate or 500mg NP Green Tea.
 
I thought I saw somewhere on here to run the 1-C 3x a day.. I tried that the past few days & was really sleep @ work. Not good! I've gone back to just dosing it at night along w/ the bulk cissus & supersap.

Would it be OK to also take bulk AAKG, Cit Malate, & CEE w/ that same night time dosing?

Thanks

that's my current pre-bed stack...great sleep, recovery, morning wood.. i prefer aakg/creatine closer to my workout...
 
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