[clownbaby1]

Okay im not trying to dis on USP labs because I KNOW the product has worked for so many people, but just hasn't for me. I've used 1 hole bottle and about 3 days worth of another bottle(i have 2 more) but i haven't seen the effects yet. I have been taking 1 p slin followed pre workout and 2 AP later in the day. I do feel a bit more energy and strength from the p slin, but no "pump",vasculartiy, or go hypo. Here are the many things i have tried:

AP DOSING 60-100g carbs
Oats
Oats with raisins
Oats with a banana
Oats with Dates
sweet potatoes
weetabix cereal w/ milk
bananas
Rice Cakes
Wheat Bread

I Tried every single one of these combinations 15, 30, and 45 minutes after taking AP. I have been clean bulking/recomping eating 300 over maintenance and have not noticed a "leaning out" effect as many have stated. My diet is 2800-3000 calories in a 40/40/20 split, all clean from basic "bodybuilding" foods, absolutely no cheating.

i have only felt hypo after an AP dosing once, and it was about 20 minutes after taking it and it went away after eating 4 slices of wheat bread(68g carbs). This happened about the 2nd week into the first bottle.

All advice and experience is greatly appreciated, as i have talked to some reps and they have tried to help but still i have not noticed any effects.

Another thing i should note is that for a while i was wondering if the digestive enzymes and fish oil i took after meals had any effect, but i have tried many meals combinations and i didn't see any difference.

[borobulker]

I am sorry you have not felt the effects from the product.

I will hold for an answer from someone more qualified than i.

Best of luck to you clownbaby1...

[clownbaby1]

Originally Posted by borobulker

I am sorry you have not felt the effects from the product.

I will hold for an answer from someone more qualified than i.

Best of luck to you clownbaby1...

Thanks for chiming in anyway. I really want this product to work for me!

[w3ss]

if the diets good, maybe the training??

[Mulletsoldier]

Height, weight, goals, etc?

[clownbaby1]

Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier

Height, weight, goals, etc?

5'6''(yes short as hell.lol.)
150-155 lbs
Goals: to recomp or gain as much lean mass with little fat gain.

[Mulletsoldier]

Originally Posted by clownbaby1

5'6''(yes short as hell.lol.)
150-155 lbs
Goals: to recomp or gain as much lean mass with little fat gain.

At those statistics, and assuming an age of mid-to-early twenties, your BMR (basal metabolic rate) is approximately 1700kcal. Which would mean a recomposition diet would hover in that immediate range, while utilizing anti-lipogenic compounds, and energy producing compounds such as AP. While AP is a fantastic product, I would not personally expect to see concurrent losses in adipose when consuming almost 1500kcals over maintenance. I would venture to say if you are consuming 1500kcals over maintenance, and have not noticed prominent adipose gain, that AP is working for you.

[clownbaby1]

Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier

At those statistics, and assuming an age of mid-to-early twenties, your BMR (basal metabolic rate) is approximately 1700kcal. Which would mean a recomposition diet would hover in that immediate range, while utilizing anti-lipogenic compounds, and energy producing compounds such as AP. While AP is a fantastic product, I would not personally expect to see concurrent losses in adipose when consuming almost 1500kcals over maintenance. I would venture to say if you are consuming 1500kcals over maintenance, and have not noticed prominent adipose gain, that AP is working for you.

I understand what you are saying, but my maintenance calories are actually around 2500 and im hoping it is doing its job of not making me gain too much fat. I still have another 1.5 bottles so ill keep testing things out and let everyone know how things go.

[Mulletsoldier]

Originally Posted by clownbaby1

I understand what you are saying, but my maintenance calories are actually around 2500 and im hoping it is doing its job of not making me gain too much fat. I still have another 1.5 bottles so ill keep testing things out and let everyone know how things go.

Would you say your adipose gain has been lessened?

[clownbaby1]

Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier

Would you say your adipose gain has been lessened?

I'd say its about the same actually, but you never know, it could be lessened. Next time i try it ill use it on a cut and im sure it will shine through then.

[borobulker]

Originally Posted by clownbaby1

I'd say its about the same actually, but you never know, it could be lessened. Next time i try it ill use it on a cut and im sure it will shine through then.

If you are consuming ~3000kcal and your BMR is (on your terms) ~2500kcal and (on Mullets terms) is down around 2000kcal, you should theoretically be open to adipose gain. If you are through one bottle; this caloric surplus has taken place consistently for approximately a one month time frame.

If you say it you cannot see a difference in your adipose, than the product has been effective.

This is honestly where i have seen my best progress. If you have ever been on a calorically controlled or low carbohydrate cut diet, i am sure you can empathize. Furthermore, strength will be retained because of a slightly higher caloric 'window' and the availability (and necessity) to consume a higher carbohydrate amount as well as increased nutrient shuttling into your muscles.


Best of luck buddy!