[EasyEJL]

I see that its supposed to be very bitter. Which flavoring would cover that the best? I was thinking the premium citrus lime aide, but is that sweetened with sugar?

[Markoni321]

no flavor can cover taste of hydrolyzed casein , I would use one of premium orange flavors , hydrolyzed casein is very bitter , very

premium flavors have sweeteners in them , acesulfame K and splenda

I would recommend you to order PeptoPro instead hydrolyzed casein , its a very little biter , price is higher but serving is less , 10g serving , and its the best protein I ever tried , you can lower price with 5% discount code ( my is CNIZZ ) , for flavors I would recommend you premium orange , and use peptopro with WMS and for WMS take same flavor as for peptopro or use lime aide instead , I like mixing orange and lime aide

[EasyEJL]

the primary reason for the hydrolyzed casein was low calcium levels. I'm looking for a slow digesting protein that is as close to no calcium as possible. I want to use it as a pre-bed drink, and I take ZMK from MST

The pepto pro sounds good for post workout, but i'm definitely not looking for an insulin spike or fast digestion.

[Markoni321]

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

the primary reason for the hydrolyzed casein was low calcium levels. I'm looking for a slow digesting protein that is as close to no calcium as possible. I want to use it as a pre-bed drink, and I take ZMK from MST

The pepto pro sounds good for post workout, but i'm definitely not looking for an insulin spike or fast digestion.

hydrolyzed casein is fast protein , its not for pre bed shake , peptopro is also for post workout and peptpro is hydrolyzed caseinate

your option is micellar casein(0.8mg in scoop ) and calcium caseinate ( 0.42mg in scoop )

[EasyEJL]

Soy and gemma are faster digesting then I guess?

[EasyEJL]

and hemp?

[Markoni321]

I don't know about soy and hemp , for gemma I know its moderate when we talk about absorption , something like egg protein

all 3 are vegetable proteins

what about egg protein , take that , or eat meat ?

[Markoni321]

3 proteins you mention are slower then whey

[EasyEJL]

yeah, I guess meat is my best option, or take one of the casiens 1-2 hours earlier and hope it doesn't interfere much with the zinc then. Egg is only around a 1-1.5 hour lifespan, and i'm trying to take something that will hold me through the early part of sleep.

[EasyEJL]

I might try the hemp, i'm reading more about it now on other sites, has some beneficial qualities anyhow

[Markoni321]

I would do like you first said , 1-2 hours before ZMA take micellar casein , and ZMA just before going to bed

[Markoni321]

hemp is also moderate absorption , nothing is like casein

[EasyEJL]

Originally Posted by Markoni321

I would do like you first said , 1-2 hours before ZMA take micellar casein , and ZMA just before going to bed

that does seem to be the most sensible choice, thanks!

[Markoni321]

can I ask you something about mega dosing fish oil , how many weeks to take 30g a day , and what after that , how much to take ?

[EasyEJL]

it seems you need at least 3-4 weeks at 30g a day, and then after that its somewhere from 10-15g a day indefinitely. This really is just to reach a high DHA level, so its possible to do it with far less if its high DHA stuff. I was shooting for 2.5g of DHA a day. This is largely from charles poliquins information, but there are others as well who subscribe to it.