[bdpeck]

is epiandro similiar to havoc
sorry I know this is a dumb ?

[Eagleman003]

in your opinion what is the best transdermal or transdermal stack here for a decent gain of clean weight with solid strength gains without a drop in libido. something comaparable to the old 1-ad without the libido drop is what i mean.

[3clipseGT]

Epi andro is not in anyway shape or form related to the Epithio products out. It converts to stanolone.

Id go with a Epiandro/19nor stack. Im not sure if the epi will be enough to ward off any "deca dic" but im sure if you get a nice AI you should have no problems and strength gains/lean mass gains will be amazing!

[warnerve]

Originally Posted by jmh80

I'd have to dig out what I ran for a dermal 1-test dose - but what about the equiv. of 600 mgs/day of dermal 1-test Eric?

i am pretty sure 600 mg a day of trans 1 test would be ridiculously high, i think it was something like 250-400

[abish]

i just called that 1-877-861-6502 and the guy at lgsciences had no idea of what i was trying to order

[3clipseGT]

Originally Posted by abish

i just called that 1-877-861-6502 and the guy at lgsciences had no idea of what i was trying to order

Lemme get this cleared up for ya bro.

[abish]

thanks bro

[LegalGear]

All cleared up.

[3clipseGT]

Originally Posted by abish

thanks bro

Its fixed my man!

[abish]

yeah i just got 2 1-andro and 2 epiandro

[3clipseGT]

Originally Posted by abish

yeah i just got 2 1-andro and 2 epiandro

Sweet stuff bro ull love it!

[Eagleman003]

i used 4-ad transdermal once and it was a ***** to apply and to deal with everyday... stacking two transdermals would be like hell in my opinion.. what is the best stand alone here?

[3clipseGT]

Originally Posted by Eagleman003

i used 4-ad transdermal once and it was a ***** to apply and to deal with everyday... stacking two transdermals would be like hell in my opinion.. what is the best stand alone here?

Depends on what you are going for. Do you want mass? Strength?

[Eagleman003]

well i know that mass comes from wet ph's and theres generally more strengh and less mass (but its lean mass) with dry ph's. I do not wanna take wet ph's for the reason that i tend to gain fat on cycle easyily with really wet compounds and i am at the point where i wanna keep my bf at the level it is around now but gain lean mass.

I rather go for a mass transdermal to be honest cause i am at a solid strength level now. Is there any PH that leans more towards mass with little fat gain and less strength?

[3clipseGT]

Originally Posted by Eagleman003

well i know that mass comes from wet ph's and theres generally more strengh and less mass (but its lean mass) with dry ph's. I do not wanna take wet ph's for the reason that i tend to gain fat on cycle easyily with really wet compounds and i am at the point where i wanna keep my bf at the level it is around now but gain lean mass.

I rather go for a mass transdermal to be honest cause i am at a solid strength level now. Is there any PH that leans more towards mass with little fat gain and less strength?

1androsterone filled this bill for me very well id look into that. Or you could even use the 19nor and throw in formestane or something to comebat the estro effects to keep it lean.