4-AD Transdermal Application!
06-22-2007 10:25 AM
actually, the WORST that could happen is it could disrupt "normal activiteis" - including testicular function (above & beyond ordinary suppression)...I'd rather be over cautious & KEEP my leydig cells intact!
Originally Posted by TheCrownedOne
Or do we have data to the effect that the crotch is just fine for transdermal androgens long-term?
06-22-2007 06:51 PM
I wont be putting this stuff near my balls period lol. If i apply applications at 10am in the morning and again around 8-10pm would the late night application keep me up from going to bed? Also, is it ok to take a 1-ad pill right before sleep so that way it is floating around my system at night?
06-22-2007 07:00 PM
I have used 4ad 1test trans a few times. Great stack, better than any of the methyl-crap stuff thats out today. The 4AD does cause sleep disturbances, but I'm sure its dose dependant.
Originally Posted by Eagleman003
06-22-2007 07:59 PM
If I wanted to do this at some point is it available through online retailers or through the non white market?
06-23-2007 09:54 AM
It's pratically impossible to find
06-23-2007 09:02 PM
can you pulse transdermals and have the same effects and lack of sides
06-23-2007 09:26 PM
Might as well get the real deal.
Originally Posted by neoborn
06-23-2007 10:21 PM
I can think of at least 2 reasons why this vs "real" gear. One being just queasiness about using a needle in the first place. The other though is transportability & family. I can manage to take a 3oz bottle of any liquid on a plane, but it sure wouldn't be as easy for me to bring a few days worth of pins. The family part is similar, I could just have a bottle that previously held anything holding this in it, and it could be in my medicine cabinet, and no worries about wives/kids/parents freaking out.
Originally Posted by bearmeat
A friend of mine used to keep GHB in Scope bottles
06-24-2007 12:46 AM
I'm referring to transdermal testosterone vs transdermal 4AD
Originally Posted by EasyEJL
06-24-2007 07:40 AM
Dude, don't bring that **** into an airport. If any of the TSA folks get curious, well, that is considered a steroid and only vary bad people use steroids. We have to put them in jail because they are so bad. Seriously though be careful with that.
Originally Posted by EasyEJL
As for application spots, you will want to put it in areas where you have the least body hair. Sometimes when the solution evaporates it will leave the solids on your hairs. They don't do much good there. I've also found success spreading the crap from the obliques up into the arm pit. But i'm not that hairy so most locations work good. If your solution contains DMSO keep it far away from your sack.
06-24-2007 12:06 PM
Originally Posted by Brother
Nope pulsing a transdermal is retarded. I wouldn't "pulse" anything anyway as I just don't agree with this method. I think it can be more harmful.
06-24-2007 12:32 PM
Maybe I missed it, what carrier do you plan on using?
With DMSO, or strong alcohol content carriers like penetrate, site rotation is a must because of dryness, and skin irritation.
I've personally follow up applications of transdermals with dmso, after the area has dried to further push through the residue. I've seen others suggest that you reapply some td carrier (without hormone added) to the area after the hormone loaded carrier has dried, to further drive through residue.
I think the tops of the feet kick butt personally. If you use stuff like tren base, you can even get tren cough if you scrub the area throughly with a lufa sponge and hot water before.
The tops of the feet are limited in surface area, and as stated before with dmso, or alcohol based carriers they can get dried. What is worse is that in the morning it is a pain in the but to avoid putting socks on for around 20 minutes while everything dries.
06-25-2007 05:07 PM
OK today was my first day on cycle. I woke up around 9:30am and took a hot shower. I got out and dried off and applied a hot air blowdryer to the area i was applying the application to (tops of feet and top of chest). I used 4 pumps (2 Servings) and put 1 on each foot and 2 on my chest. This stuff came out like hair gel pratically and was very thick to my surprise. I shook the bottle well before using. I used a plastic sandwhich baggy placed on one of my fingers to rub the gel into the skin and spread it around the area evenly. I am going to apply 4 more pumps to the same spots tonight. I am going to use the tops of my feet and chest untill they get irritated or dry out. Is that ok?
I noticed that even 3 hours after the application I could see shiny, glossy "stuff" on the tops of my feet and top of my chest - is this normal?
Also how long should i expect for this stuff to kick in, although today i did get a sick pump in the gym hehe...
06-25-2007 10:27 PM
In my experience, transdermals take about a week to kick in. The pumps youre feeling are probably from the 1ad orals. That stuff used to give me the sickest pumps after only a day or two.
06-25-2007 10:31 PM
Mine comes out like skim milk :\
06-25-2007 11:55 PM
So is it bad that mine comes out like a loose gel? This product was produced around 2004
Originally Posted by moklepaul
06-26-2007 09:20 AM
Probably not, just using a different carrier now that I think of it. Sorry to worry you
I'd prefer mine to be thicker actually. Try rubbing 4 squirts of water on, lol.
06-29-2007 10:02 PM
Hey guys im 5 days into my cycle and ive gained a good 4 pounds (i weigh myself every morning). I do feel a little bloated and have more energy in the gym. I havent had any strength increase yet and i feel as though the 1-AD i am taking @ 400mg which expired in APril 2007 isnt working as well as i had hoped. As for the transdermal I am applying it to my inner arms and tops of feet. 8 Squirts a day (8ml) is the 4-ad dose which is around 500 mg transdermal. I hope this 1-AD is still potent but i feel like it is not. I do not have any acne and my libido is still very good. Opinions?
Also my doses are as follows:
10am --- 1ad and 4ad
3pm --- 1ad
8pm ---- 1ad and 4ad
12am --- 1-ad (havent had any sleeping problems)
Last edited by Eagleman003; 06-29-2007 at 10:07 PM.
Reason: Forgot something
07-03-2007 04:04 AM
way to soon to tell, no experience with 4ad or 1ad, but with test I generally just get hornier the first week. Week 2 is like "maybe there is a difference". Week 3 is like "Hell Yes! this is what I'm talking about"
07-03-2007 10:11 AM
What can i do about spots drying out adn the skin peeling around the area of application? SHould i continue applying application there or stop? So far i have just been doing upper chest, forearms and tops of feet
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