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Snorting Ph's!!!!!!

Ok who is up for this....... What I was thinking is that snorting 4-ad or 19-nor may be beneficial. It should not burn and it could get better absorption. OR does it have to be a cyclo product. When the powder gets into the lungs it will be absorbed like Coke or something. Am I retarded or is this plauseble.... Keep in mind I have snorted ephedrine.. ANd that works very well and very fast....

One thing to thnk about i guess would be you would have to snort every 3-4 hrs but not very much at all...... 100mg or so.. Talk to ya..
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Keep in mind I have snorted ephedrine.. ANd that works very well and very fast....

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And I thought I was the only crazy-ass mother ****er in here ...

Snorting ephedrine is freakin awesome...I tried it about 4 months ago...that was nutz.

Hey...I think that the PH's have to be about the same consistency as coke (powder wise) and if it is a cyclo product then that would increase absorption in the nasal cavity as well as in the lungs.

 

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4-ad is a very fine powder. I will give it a little try tonight... Unless someone has some reason for me not to do it... Talk to ya....
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4-ad is a very fine powder. I will give it a little try tonight... Unless someone has some reason for me not to do it... Talk to ya....
 

Hey man, its your nose and lungs....GO FOR IT!!!!!!

and please.....post the results (i.e. agression and whatnot)

 

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IMO better results will be obtained by cyclo-dextrins...but, there has to be a baseline somewhere

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O/T Lifeguard, did you crush up and snort a vasopro ehedrine hcl or did you find a powder or e hcl?
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I  just crushed up some ephidrine hcl pills. So all the filler went in as well... Its all good.. TAlk to ya....
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Oops. I meant to say curt2go and lifeguard. I think I'll give it a try tomorrow.
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Get a pill crusher from the pharmacy. Make sure they are crushed very good. It works well but it does burn a bit... Talk to ya..
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4-ad is a very fine powder. I will give it a little try tonight... Unless someone has some reason for me not to do it... Talk to ya....
 

Curts, Have you try other areas as well? You are the man, I can not handle anything, Transdermal because is easy on my liver. I can not imagine taking up my nose with my sinus. Talk 2 YA!



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Curts, Have you try other areas as well? You are the man, I can not handle anything, Transdermal because is easy on my liver. I can not imagine taking up my nose with my sinus. Talk 2 YA!
If you are talking sopository . My butt is out only. hehehehe. I will let you guys know how the snorting goes. I think I can suck my brother into trying it as well. he will do whatever i tell him is good...  hehehehe. I've got the power.. Just kidding. Its a trust thing... Talk to ya..
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If you are talking sopository . My butt is out only. hehehehe. I will let you guys know how the snorting goes. I think I can suck my brother into trying it as well. he will do whatever i tell him is good...  hehehehe. I've got the power.. Just kidding. Its a trust thing... Talk to ya..
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2 things
1 look out for nose bleeds.
2. dont do it in public place or you will be arrested, because
someone will think you are doing blow. curt you are differant.
good luck and let us know what happens.
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I'm up for it, I will start with about 50mgs 4AD
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I did this years ago with the first generation pro-hormones. Got myself a roaring sinus infection. Other than that, seemed to work fine but I'm going to stick with transdermal for the time being.

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i remember reading something about this. apparently waaay back in the day when the germans were devolping this stuff they rolled up a bill and tested it. the claims were that it raised test levels. i don't remember if it was 4-diol or just the dione.

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2 things
1 look out for nose bleeds.
2. dont do it in public place or you will be arrested, because
someone will think you are doing blow. curt you are differant.
good luck and let us know what happens.
Everyone thought Einstein was differnt as well.... Talk to ya

 
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I have no way of measuring 50mgs.... But here goes... Talk to ya...
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Well I did what I think was about 100mg but probably more.. It was too much. It hurts a bit and made me cough. But all in all not to bad. I do feel a burst of energy and I have a mayjor head rush still. 5-6 min later... I will let you know how long it lasts... I don't thin I could do that more than once a day. Maybe pre work out???? Talk to ya... We could call it T-rage.... heheheh. Talk to ya...
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O/T Lifeguard, did you crush up and snort a vasopro ehedrine hcl or did you find a powder or e hcl?
Actually I opened a capsule of ECA (herbal extracts) and did about 3 lines of it...WHEW...it was nutz!!!!!!

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50mg... watery eyes, burning... oh crap it was 1-test, not 4ad!

Nope, it wasnt but its a very strange feeling, I'm not really doing much but it is a sort of head rush along with some focus... hard to describe. Try it yourself. Curt, did you get a bunch in the back of your throat? I sure did.
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I did. But like I said I did allot. I can still feel something. A little light headed kind of. Still rushy feeling. DOn't know if its just me or not but.. Its been 3 hrs and still feeling something.. Well I will try it again. This time I won't tell my wife. She thought I was a retard... Alll in all I would have to say try it and you will see the feeling. I think it would be good pre-work out... Talk to ya...
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I don't like the burning and crap that goes along with it. I think I would spend the extra bucks for the In-Rage.
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I did. But like I said I did allot. I can still feel something. A little light headed kind of. Still rushy feeling. DOn't know if its just me or not but.. Its been 3 hrs and still feeling something.. Well I will try it again. This time I won't tell my wife. She thought I was a retard... Alll in all I would have to say try it and you will see the feeling. I think it would be good pre-work out... Talk to ya...
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Interesting. Will 1-test (burning aside) and other ph's also work?
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Interesting. Will 1-test (burning aside) and other ph's also work?
Yes, but dont snort 1-test.

For an update, I woke up 10 hours after snorting the crap and I am still getting granules in the back of my throat. My sinuses also seem very dry and somewhat irritated.
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My nosttril is runny this morning.... So make of it what you will. Probably not worth the trouble of it all... Talk to ya..
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LOL, this reminds me - when I was making my tprop, I snorted some of the powder before mixing it in. Not much, just a few finger tips worth. I didn't feel any ill effects (I wonder if this is because of the tprop, or because at the time my tprop was crystalized, not powder). In any case, did get a bit of a rush, followed by a nice focused feeling.

The in-rage is just cyclo 5AA in some delivery liquid, right? With dazed's article on cyclo's in M&M it shouldn't be hard to whip up some homebrew.
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Has there been any written research done on this?

Personally I enjoy snorting things. But I have years of drug use behind me

I would expect your body to take it more of the 1-test then you would via a transendermal. I was doing some research for the drug MDMA and when you snort it you take in about 90% of the product, when you do oral you take in 20-30%.

I dont know how that differs from 1 test/4ad but I bet its the same. But who knows, you may also have to snort the test more often then you would take a transendermal since your body takes it in so quickly.

but on the other hand...you may need to dose less often since your body probably takes in more then it normally does..

who knows *shrug*
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Also keep in mind the need to complex with a cyclodextrin to increase the water solubility.  Without it the amount absorbed goes way down...

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