[Kristofer68SS]

i guess i did a good job on my solution. Unless i start sweating or get wet, there is no residue(within reason) on my skin.

Now when i sweat thats another story. ...... the powders seem to come up to the surface of the epidermis. At least in my experience with TD's

[dsade]

Originally Posted by Rodja

Only a slight burn? I always get a 1test burn on my upper lip from the transdermal carrier. I used the transport matrix on my chest once and it nearly burned my GF's face off. Be very careful with 1test; 4AD is not nearly as irritable, but 1test can leave lingering pain on sensitive areas like the upperlip.

Humor my man...1-test burns like a mofo.

[Kristofer68SS]

Originally Posted by dsade

Humor my man...1-test burns like a mofo.

Its weird for me, sometimes the **** burns me bad and others its just a light irration. When i scrub really good and exfoliate real good, it seems to burn more. Nothing too extreme though. 5 mins and its gone.

[Joseph L 28832]

I'm just 4 days into this same cycle right now. Mixing ratio is 2-1. 10gr 4-AD, to 5gr 1-Test. in 8oz solution (mix came from Chemo). But, I don't believe I would attempt any more than 15gr in any soultion, Im afraid it would become saturated & rendered virtually useless. Being that this will be some what wet, I've descided to use Halodrol instead of SD. #1 I can run it longer, & #2 I've never tried it before. AI, how about Halodrol Liquid gels to help with water retention. But this may be wishfull thinking & require something stronger.
At any rate, 1st 8oz will be 2-1, the second will be 3-2 (6gr 1-Test, to 9gr 4-AD) & be prepared for a stronger AI.

Joe

[diplomats]

Originally Posted by Joseph L 28832

I'm just 4 days into this same cycle right now. Mixing ratio is 2-1. 10gr 4-AD, to 5gr 1-Test. in 8oz solution (mix came from Chemo). But, I don't believe I would attempt any more than 15gr in any soultion, Im afraid it would become saturated & rendered virtually useless. Being that this will be some what wet, I've descided to use Halodrol instead of superdrol. #1 I can run it longer, & #2 I've never tried it before. AI, how about Halodrol Liquid gels to help with water retention. But this may be wishfull thinking & require something stronger.
At any rate, 1st 8oz will be 2-1, the second will be 3-2 (6gr 1-Test, to 9gr 4-AD) & be prepared for a stronger AI.

Joe

yeah that was a dumb mistake. I stopped the 1-TEST though. Since that was the one, i had problem with. My 4-ad went well, and i did put 25 grms in that as well. I have already sent an order for some penetrate. I will be splict that in half and mix it in with the test and 4 ad.

[Joseph L 28832]

If your looking at two 8oz bottles of mix with 12gr each. Yes I'm sure that would be a good idea. I'm just now getting a bit of that alpha-male attitude, now I'm anxious for the Halodrol to help with the hardening & pumps.
Joe

[Salem]

Originally Posted by B5150

24 grams in a 8 oz bottle is 200mg per ml. That is a ridulous amount. Just becuase I can get it in the bottle does not mean it is "in solution". That is way past the saturation point. 12g is 100mg/ml and that is pushing it. Good luck!

I srry...but 12g for 8oz is 50mg/ml ?

[Heat Miser]

And 24g in 8oz (240ml) is only 100mg/ml. Just goes to show you that anyone can make a mistake. Thank you for taking the time bring attention to my mistake. We're all better people for it

[b-rad]

Originally Posted by diplomats

i still dont know why guys say it hard to mix 4-ad in a solution. I just mixed 24grms in a penetrate solution and it went to super well, i mean SUPER WELL. I also put 24grms of 1-test in another penetrate bottle. The 1-test went in good but there are grains lying aroung the bottle when i shake it up. Other than that, everything else is golden.

i was able to get 10g of test powder into solution, but only after heating the bottle a few times. sorry to hear that you potentially wasted a lot of 4ad.

[Strategic]

I have about 12 grams of 1test powder and 25 grams of 4AD powder. Using the Dermabolics transport matrix, I'm trying to make a mix with the same amount of 1test/4ad as the old s1+. S1+ came in 4oz bottles and 5 sprays = 200mgs 4ad and 100mgs 1test. If my math is right, the bottle should have 6 grams 4ad and 3 grams 1test. Isn't 9 grams total too much to put in a 4oz transport matrix bottle?

[L J]

I'm sure the s1+ came in 8oz?

[Strategic]

It came in 4oz bottle (see attachment), but I was wrong about the amount of 4ad. The dose was 150mg per 5 sprays, which means it had a total of 4.5 grams 4ad and 3 grams 1test. 7.5 grams of powder is about the max amount that can fit in a 4oz bottle of dermabolics, so it makes sense. I'm thinking of running a 6 week cycle, so I might just get the 8oz transport matrix and mix 9 grams 4ad and 6 grams 1test. That would be more than enough to last 6 weeks applying 6 sprays twice a day.

[bpmartyr]

Originally Posted by B5150

24 grams in a 8 oz bottle is 200mg per ml. That is a ridulous amount. Just becuase I can get it in the bottle does not mean it is "in solution". That is way past the saturation point. 12g is 100mg/ml and that is pushing it. Good luck!

24 grams in 8oz is closer to 100mg/ml.

12 grams in 8oz is close to 50mg/ml.

There is just under 30ml in a fluid oz. Figure 250ml to take the volume of the hormone into account. Divide 12,000mg by the 250 and voila: 48mg/ml.

[L J]

Originally Posted by Strategic

It came in 4oz bottle (see attachment), but I was wrong about the amount of 4ad. The dose was 150mg per 5 sprays, which means it had a total of 4.5 grams 4ad and 3 grams 1test. 7.5 grams of powder is about the max amount that can fit in a 4oz bottle of dermabolics, so it makes sense. I'm thinking of running a 6 week cycle, so I might just get the 8oz transport matrix and mix 9 grams 4ad and 6 grams 1test. That would be more than enough to last 6 weeks applying 6 sprays twice a day.

My mistake, good luck on the cycle, am starting mine end of the week doing something similar

[Strategic]

LJ, what kind of carrier are you using to make your transdermal?

[L J]

Using Nutraplanet's penetrate 8 oz bottle