[FlyByU]

I've read posts here from folks who like to use d-limonene, DMSO or PS80 when compounding test cream using Phlojel.
When I searched the archives, I found that a ratio of 1ml of DMSO to 1g of test powder should be used to end up with a cream that is perfectly smooth and free of flakes.
Would others agree with this?
I have not been able to find out what ratio should be used when using d-limonene or PS80 instead of DMSO.
I will be compouding a batch of 10% test cream soon and want to make sure that it comes out free of flakes/grits and does not leave an annoying white residue on the skin.
If anyone could assist, I would appreciate it.

[superstar]

I'm just a rookie myself but from what I've learned from B5150, it's the same ratio for any solvent. 1ml per 1 gram.

[Heat Miser]

My experience is limited to a couple solvents. ISO dries too quickly and you would need at least a 1:1 ratio in IMO. PEG400 got too pastie at less than 1:1 ratio and at 1:1 it was just workable. With the DMSO a 1:1 was very wet. I could probably have used less DMSO but becasue it is also a PE I wanted it to be at 10% of my compound.

I imagine that the ideal ratio may vary from androgen to androgen as well as your patience in working the compound.

[FlyByU]

B5150, did you find that when using d-limonene a 1:1 ratio worked best? Also, if one were to use DMSO, do you think a 0.75:1 ratio would work better than a 1:1 ratio?
Thanks.

[jonny21]

Originally Posted by FlyByU

B5150, did you find that when using d-limonene a 1:1 ratio worked best? Also, if one were to use DMSO, do you think a 0.75:1 ratio would work better than a 1:1 ratio?
Thanks.

I know I am not B5150 but what solvent and the ratio is dependant on the base compound and the concentration. I would not use D-limonene with test base.

[Heat Miser]

Originally Posted by FlyByU

B5150, did you find that when using d-limonene a 1:1 ratio worked best?

I have not used it.

Also, if one were to use DMSO, do you think a 0.75:1 ratio would work better than a 1:1 ratio?
Thanks.

What is better? It was wet which means it went into compounding with PhloJel very easily. To me that is better. I wanted a 10% DMSO compound for PE purposes so to me it was better for that reason as well.

[FlyByU]

Originally Posted by jonny21

I know I am not B5150 but what solvent and the ratio is dependant on the base compound and the concentration. I would not use D-limonene with test base.

Sorry, I'm referring to test base only. Why not D-limonene with test base? And, in regards to DMSO, I assume you use the 99.9% version?

[jonny21]

Originally Posted by FlyByU

Sorry, I'm referring to test base only. Why not D-limonene with test base?

Test base did not dissolve properly in D-limonene. Too much residual grittiness. That will be the significant obstacle to using Test Base. DMGE works very well to dissolve it, DMSO works sufficiently at a 1:1ratio(a little heat increases effect).

[FlyByU]

Originally Posted by jonny21

Test base did not dissolve properly in D-limonene. Too much residual grittiness. That will be the significant obstacle to using Test Base. DMGE works very well to dissolve it, DMSO works sufficiently at a 1:1ratio(a little heat increases effect).

Thanks for your help. Forgive my ignorance, but what is DMGE and where is it available?

[jonny21]

Originally Posted by FlyByU

Thanks for your help. Forgive my ignorance, but what is DMGE and where is it available?

Diethylene glycol monoethyl ether(DGME) Very difficult to locate.

BTW, if this is your first trnasdermal trial go check out this thread. Might be some helpful information.

40-day Transdermal Test/Oral Turinabol Cycle

[FlyByU]

Originally Posted by jonny21

Diethylene glycol monoethyl ether(DGME) Very difficult to locate.

BTW, if this is your first trnasdermal trial go check out this thread. Might be some helpful information.

40-day Transdermal Test/Oral Turinabol Cycle

Thanks. Very good thread! It doesn't look like I will be able to obtain the DMGE though. Do you think if I used 0.5:1 DMSO and 0.5:1 D-limonene it would still give a bad taste in the mouth? Also, do you know if PS80 would be of any use in TDs?