I would just like to say its really fu***** difficult to figure out the correct dosage you would need to get good results in your transdermal--1st you have to figure what carrier you will use they all make big claims [just a little exaggerated]then once you figure that then theres thr ester,should that count as part of the dose?example; 100mg of fina --now fina refers to tren ace 100mg minus the ester =60mg an average dose? Now Im not complaining about the waste most know that pinning the way to go,but seems like I wasted half my mix by dic**** around with to low a dose[yes I did a lot of searching but like they say opinions are like as*ho*** ]where Im at now --I have my mix adjusted to 300mg of tren ace PD 2doses and minus the ester thatS 180mg base and at 30% AB =54MG PD still kinda low but I only got about 17 days worth left