Homebrew using Fina.....

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    Homebrew using Fina.....


    ....hey Big Daddy...I read your post on the "recipe" and I want to use Fina instead of a PH. I would like to know how much to add to that exact recipe for best absorpton of the TA. I am currently using a bottle of Andro Spray with 4gms of fina. I think that this may have been too much! I am using 13 sprays per day. I am almost at the 2 week mark with descent results.
    I am also applying 20 squirts per day of Advents 4-ADerm. I am getting quite a bit of bloating though.
    I want to make my own this time using your recipe and the empty Andro bottle. I am also going to make a 4-AD homebrew using you're ingredients.

    Thanks in advance!

    p.s. Great Board

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    Number one..there is NO such thing as too much fina.

    Number 2, if it is 35% absorption, then shoot for 70mg a day of fina, or 200 mg applied each day.

    In terms of dissolving it, I like to stay around 35mg/ML but others may have different opinions.
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    This is a board of honest answers without the shameless product plugs so here is my opinion...

    If you want to decrease the skin irritation and DMSO stink go with a transdermal gel.

    If you want maximum absorption when transdermally administering fina go with 50% DMSO and saran wrap.

    I have posted a de-esterification for fina to make it better for transdermal application but some are reporting low yields (in the 50% range). Until I can tweak the recipe to make it a little more friendly I cannot recommend it in good faith. Sooo, with an esterfied molecule (such as fina) DMSO / saran wrap will get the most through...and cheaper.

    Chemo

    *SHAMELESS PRODUCT PLUG*
    T-4 has 12 grams of 4-AD in a ready made DMSO mix for $28.50
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    Originally posted by wardog
    Number one..there is NO such thing as too much fina.



    LOL, LMAO!!!


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    Yes we leave the shamless plugs for the other boards.heheheh. Talk to ya. Never TO much. Good one wardog...
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    Originally posted by Big Daddy Chemo

    If you want maximum absorption when transdermally administering fina go with 50% DMSO and saran wrap.


    Chemo


    Whats the saran wrap for...duhhh...I'm dumb



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    I think some tren (fina) with TNE from synovex in the homebrew transdermal would be interesting I wonder how it would compare to a 1-test + 4ad combo? Fina is around $17/g though, with synovex coming in at about $5/g. Actually, TNE + 1-test might be the most interesting and cost-effective combo since fina has an ester (which may inhibit transdermal administration) and is so expensive.

    Interesting alternatives for those who are sick of poking.
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    Skazzel,

    I am doing the fina (ester removed) and TNE Syn H special homebrew right now. Started 2 days ago and I am doing a two week cycle.

    My previous 2 week cycle was fina only (with ester) and I gained 9 pounds.

    I will update at the end of this cycle.

    Also, my next 2 week cycle will be 1-test and Syn H.
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    Steve,

    Awesome, please post and let us know how it goes! Did you remove the ester from the tren using sodium hydroxide? Do you have any info on how the ester would inhibit transdermal absorption?

    I really think the 1-test and TNE from synovex combo could be a killer since they are both real steroids and have no need for conversion. Also 1-test is very similar in effect to tren and 1/3 the price.

    I take it you are doing the 2-week on / 2-week off cycling?
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    Skazzel,

    Yes, I did remove the ester using sodium hydroxide. I lost quite a bit of product though and I am working with BDC to see where I went wrong.

    Yes, I am doing 2 week on (Tr &TNE) / 2 week off / 2 week on (1test & TNE) / 4-6 weeks off.

    I will keep you posted
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    I will add here that the recipe offered previously for removing the ester from fina is somewhat flawed. Most people that have tried it are reporting low yields (in the 50% range). There are others, like myself, that get 95% but we are the exception. For those that are interested in this procedure it is simply saponification (base catalyzed ester removal) with NaOH. I am reviewing several write-ups from bros that have tried it and hopefully there will be an improved method offered shortly.

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    BDC,

    Awesome stuff. Most people doing transdermal fina are just crushing up the tabs. I bet you could get much better transdermal results by filtering the binders (methyl cellulose) and removing the ester.
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    Originally posted by Big Daddy Chemo
    If you want maximum absorption when transdermally administering fina go with 50% DMSO and saran wrap.

    I

    What's the possibility of getting a premade mixture to that order
    50%Dmso?


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    The reason for the 10% is to keep stench to i minimum. Basically zero. Any amout of above DMSO about 10% has been shown to make your breath stink and B.O.. But it would be best for absorption(50%)...Talk to ya
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    Bro, 50% DMSO with saran wrap will give best transdermal absorption, but will kill your skin and make you stink! If you really want good "absorption"
    , inject it!
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    Originally posted by Big Daddy Chemo
    I will add here that the recipe offered previously for removing the ester from fina is somewhat flawed. Most people that have tried it are reporting low yields (in the 50% range). There are others, like myself, that get 95% but we are the exception. For those that are interested in this procedure it is simply saponification (base catalyzed ester removal) with NaOH. I am reviewing several write-ups from bros that have tried it and hopefully there will be an improved method offered shortly.

    Chemo
    Any luck finding an improved method for removing the ester from tren acetate?
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    Number one..there is NO such thing as too much fina.

    HAHAHHA Thats classic..


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    synovex>>>gyno


    A transdermal with synovex doesnt the estrogen conversion thing become a problem again? Whiel on the subject . How about a brew with 2gr of fina and say 6 of synovex. What do you think?
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    You remove the estrogen from the synovex bro. Estrogen aromitization does become an issue, just as it would with any testosterone product. Thats what armidex and femura are for.
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    Originally posted by SteveDFW
    Skazzel,

    I am doing the fina (ester removed) and TNE Syn H special homebrew right now. Started 2 days ago and I am doing a two week cycle.

    My previous 2 week cycle was fina only (with ester) and I gained 9 pounds.

    I will update at the end of this cycle.

    Also, my next 2 week cycle will be 1-test and Syn H.
    why does anyone use the Synovex version which requires alot of work to remove estradiol, when the finaplix-H or TH is just as readily available? this isn't a knock, I'm new to fina and trying to learn.
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    Refrigeration with homebrew?


    This may be a newbie question, but I am wondering if it is adviseable to refrigerate the homebrew/fina solution?

    Thanks for the informative board!!

    Cheers!
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    why does anyone use the Synovex version which requires alot of work to remove estradiol, when the finaplix-H or TH is just as readily available?
    They are different things. Finaplix-H or Component-TH are sources of tren acetate (or tren w/o ester if you saponify with NaOH).

    Synovex-H is a source of testosterone (with or without ester, depending on how you do it).
  

  
 

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