transdermal - test base or test prop?

  1. transdermal - test base or test prop?


    Which do you think is better suited to using as a transdermal? I may not have access to test base, so would prop be a good alternative. I was also considering NPP also. How would that go? Thanks


  2. TESTOSTERONE PROPIONATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-PROPIONATE
    melting point= 247-252 F
    molecular weight=344.50
    rotation= +86 C=1 DIOXANE

    TESTOSTERONE BASE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE
    melting point= 310 F
    molecular weight= 288.4
    rotation= +102 degrees C=1 CHCL3

    100mg of test Prop = ~ 83mg Test Base

    Considering Test Prop MW is <400 should work. Don't go too high in concentration for best results.

  3. any other opinions on this? I am curious as well
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by jonny21

    Considering Test Prop MW is <400 should work. Don't go too high in concentration for best results.
    what do you recommend for concentration?

  5. i remember asking triceptor about this somewhere, just run a search.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by E-Swift25
    Which do you think is better suited to using as a transdermal? I may not have access to test base, so would prop be a good alternative. I was also considering NPP also. How would that go? Thanks
    I am unsure of the answer. I would add however that I believe removal of the ester from the test prop is a reasonably simple procedure that Chemo detailed in a post here.
  7. Unhappy On the topic of esters......


    On the topid of esters I was wondering if it is necessary to remove the ester from Tren Acetate for transdermal application. I heard it is better for absorbtion, but that the difference it makes isn't much worth doing. Any info would be much appreciate for a newb like me.

  8. There is a lengthy thread here on the subject of tren as a transdermal. It I believe was the opinion of most that tren base is up to 20% more bioavailable as a transdermal than the acetate.

  9. Heres a thread that might be of interest to all looking to remove esters.

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/anabo...light=saponify

  10. go with the base.....it has a lower MW and will penetrate better. It shouldn't be a problem going 50-100mg/ML in T-gel. 100 may be a bit gritty.....you'll just have to experiment.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by E-Swift25
    Which do you think is better suited to using as a transdermal? I may not have access to test base, so would prop be a good alternative. I was also considering NPP also. How would that go? Thanks
    test base is a better choice for a transdermal.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by mildain
    On the topid of esters I was wondering if it is necessary to remove the ester from Tren Acetate for transdermal application. I heard it is better for absorbtion, but that the difference it makes isn't much worth doing. Any info would be much appreciate for a newb like me.
    no. it is plausable and likely that the ester is cleaved by way of hydrolysis in the vehicle.. over what period of time is unknown. trenbolone acetate delivers very well in a transdermal. i have used rendered fina pellets and have had very good success but you should run tren with test. it will shut down endo test production quickly and if you run it with test I have found the side effects to me much less evident. tren only cycles are not enjoyable IMHO

  13. Thanks alot everyone for info. I think I'll try using tren acetate for my first cycle with the phlojel. I got 100 g of phlojel coming soon and can't wait to try it out. I'll also stack it with some test base.

  14. im taking the prop but not having the best rusults

  15. Quote Originally Posted by triceptor
    no. it is plausable and likely that the ester is cleaved by way of hydrolysis in the vehicle.. over what period of time is unknown. trenbolone acetate delivers very well in a transdermal. i have used rendered fina pellets and have had very good success but you should run tren with test. it will shut down endo test production quickly and if you run it with test I have found the side effects to me much less evident. tren only cycles are not enjoyable IMHO

    Have you compared to using Tren base in a transdermal?

  16. Any update?
  

  
 

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