transdermal - test base or test prop?
- 12-02-2005, 11:17 AM
- 12-02-2005, 11:29 AM
TESTOSTERONE PROPIONATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-PROPIONATE
melting point= 247-252 F
rotation= +86 C=1 DIOXANE
TESTOSTERONE BASE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE
melting point= 310 F
molecular weight= 288.4
rotation= +102 degrees C=1 CHCL3
100mg of test Prop = ~ 83mg Test Base
Considering Test Prop MW is <400 should work. Don't go too high in concentration for best results.
- 12-02-2005, 04:58 PM
any other opinions on this? I am curious as well
12-02-2005, 05:01 PM
what do you recommend for concentration?Originally Posted by jonny21
12-02-2005, 09:35 PM
i remember asking triceptor about this somewhere, just run a search.
12-03-2005, 12:12 PM
I am unsure of the answer. I would add however that I believe removal of the ester from the test prop is a reasonably simple procedure that Chemo detailed in a post here.Originally Posted by E-Swift25
12-03-2005, 09:08 PM
On the topic of esters......
On the topid of esters I was wondering if it is necessary to remove the ester from Tren Acetate for transdermal application. I heard it is better for absorbtion, but that the difference it makes isn't much worth doing. Any info would be much appreciate for a newb like me.
12-03-2005, 10:12 PM
There is a lengthy thread here on the subject of tren as a transdermal. It I believe was the opinion of most that tren base is up to 20% more bioavailable as a transdermal than the acetate.
12-03-2005, 10:13 PM
12-04-2005, 09:25 AM
go with the base.....it has a lower MW and will penetrate better. It shouldn't be a problem going 50-100mg/ML in T-gel. 100 may be a bit gritty.....you'll just have to experiment.
12-04-2005, 07:42 PM
test base is a better choice for a transdermal.Originally Posted by E-Swift25
12-04-2005, 07:47 PM
no. it is plausable and likely that the ester is cleaved by way of hydrolysis in the vehicle.. over what period of time is unknown. trenbolone acetate delivers very well in a transdermal. i have used rendered fina pellets and have had very good success but you should run tren with test. it will shut down endo test production quickly and if you run it with test I have found the side effects to me much less evident. tren only cycles are not enjoyable IMHOOriginally Posted by mildain
12-04-2005, 08:25 PM
Thanks alot everyone for info. I think I'll try using tren acetate for my first cycle with the phlojel. I got 100 g of phlojel coming soon and can't wait to try it out. I'll also stack it with some test base.
01-10-2006, 12:32 AM
im taking the prop but not having the best rusults
01-10-2006, 07:32 AM
Originally Posted by triceptor
Have you compared to using Tren base in a transdermal?
02-25-2006, 06:20 PM
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