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Old 01-09-2005, 07:19 PM   #1
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best local trandermal?
hey guys,

im looking for the best local delivery transdermal to make my own version of andractim. ive been looking at Lipoderm Y. I know Par Deus was working on quite a few local carriers, but i do not the status of those....either way, need input!

i think the 3g of yohimbine in the lipodermY will be well suited with the 6 or so grams of active substance...i will be making "real" andractim...
 
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:10 PM   #2
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I'd be intrested in this as well.
 
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Old 01-09-2005, 11:16 PM   #3
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I think Avant stopped making gel #3 which was their local carrier gel
 
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Old 01-10-2005, 11:41 AM   #4
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isnt lipoderm the same as gel #3 (same science, anyway)?
 
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Old 01-10-2005, 02:15 PM   #5
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isnt lipoderm the same as gel #3 (same science, anyway)?
I believe it is
 
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Old 01-10-2005, 02:24 PM   #6
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thanks bro....i think im going to confirm with par deus....just to be sure!
 
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Gel #3 is slighly different, for different actives. Gel #3 is what is used in Ab-Solved.
 
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Old 01-10-2005, 05:36 PM   #8
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Gel #3 is slighly different, for different actives. Gel #3 is what is used in Ab-Solved.
reviews over at 1fast suggest that absovled burns a lot.....i dont think i want on my nips....

lipoderm Y seems to be a better choice for this.
 
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reviews over at 1fast suggest that absovled burns a lot.....i dont think i want on my nips....

lipoderm Y seems to be a better choice for this.
Not that kind of burn...just a very warm/hot sensation. But then again...they're your nips not mine.
 


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Gel #3 is slighly different, for different actives. Gel #3 is what is used in Ab-Solved.
Would gel # 3 be similar to syte enhance ?
 
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Old 01-10-2005, 06:20 PM   #11
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Same carrier.
 
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I tried to make it with absolved and 3alpha i was also using a tiny amount of dmso over application areas.

I did not do anything for my gyno used for 3 weeks without change.It did start to scab my nipples over somewhat and they bacame painfull towards the end of the 3 weeks.

I have had it for close to 7 months before treatment though. Its not to bad just a slight lump about the size of a dime but the farther back i grab it gets to about a quarter size almost like there is two lumps. I think MDHT would work better or regular active DHT.
 
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Andactrim worked systemically, whether applied to the breast or the stomach...
 
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Andactrim worked systemically, whether applied to the breast or the stomach...
yeah...thats why i want to try one of avants local carriers....

also, anyone know the DHT concentration in andractim? i cant find the info anywhere. i even registered on a gyno board to get the answer and still nothing...
 
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From micromedex:
"It has anabolic and androgenic properties and is applied topically in the form of a 2.5% gel for male hypogonadism, gynaecomastia, and for lichen sclerosus in both men and women."
 
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thanks dazed. each tube is 80g, so 2.5% would be only 2g of DHT. each tube lasts 16 servings (5g per serving), so thats 125mg per serving.
 
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