[5111]

Is there anything that I can/should add to this product to make it a more effective cycle?

[NPursuit]

DMSO or DMFA

[5111]

Originally Posted by NPursuit

DMSO or DMFA

Why do you recommend those? I thought that they were for pain and soreness.

[NPursuit]

Originally Posted by 5111

Why do you recommend those? I thought that they were for pain and soreness.

They increase the absorption of the androgens.

[5111]

Originally Posted by NPursuit

They increase the absorption of the androgens.

Do you know if any of the sponsors cary it or is it something that you can get in the store?

[cr4ytonic]

Custom has DSMO. I have never seen a store cary it, we have some here @ our lab though.

[prld2gr8ns]

I picked up some at a local farmer's market, as it's primarily used for joint pain and soreness for horses.

[boby-at]

hm, and should one mix the DMSO directly with the s1+ or what? And how much DMSO?

[cr4ytonic]

Add enough to make it 10%, just add it directly and shake. How much depends on how much s1+ you have.

[5111]

Okay, I will order some DMSO later today. I have some dumb newbie questions about using this.

I searched and found different application methods and want to know which one is best. Some say to spray it in your hand and then wipe it on different parts each day. Others say spray directly on the surface. Does it even matter? Also, have many people devoloped irritations from applying it to the same spots every day?

I have 3 bottles of s1+. How much DMSO should I order? (I don't remember how many ounces are in each bottle and cannot access that site from work.)

Finally, is 5 squirts twice a day a pretty normal doseage? Would I need to increase it to 5.5 after adding the DMSO?

[boby-at]

in theory, if you apply directly on the skin there could be certain misting effect leading to some loss of product, I always spray in my cupped hand and apply it then to the skin. As 1-test is known to be somewhat skin-irritating it could be wise to alternate the application areas. you need something like 0.4 oz DMSO per bottle (according to the cry4tonic 10% tip) and yes, since you dilute your solution by 10% you should use 10% more of it afterwards to ensure the right dosage.
P.S. In my opinion DMFA smells less disgusting - I'll give it a try..

[tattoopierced1]

the best way to use it is to use an oral syringe so that you get accurate doses and then apply from the oral syringe to your skin.

[bulkmuscle]

i find the best method is to put a ziplock bag over your hand and spray the liquid onto it, then massage it onto your skin.

[gabriel]

ziplock for sure. i just finished a cyc of this and the bags are the way to go.

[cr4ytonic]

rubber gloves and syringes are so cheap...

[5111]

Okay, check out my idiot math and tell me if I am right.


I am using Dermabolics' s1+.

The bottle contains 4oz. (120mL)
I added .4oz DMSO (12mL) Makes overall DMSO 11%
New total/bottle 4.4oz (132mL)

According to Dermabolics each bottle should contain 30 "servings". So if I now have 132mL (4.4oz) and I divide that by 30 servings it makes each serving 4.4mL (.1467oz). Right?

I have a 3mL syringe with .1mL graduations to measure it out. Does this all sound correct?

[J_MAN]

yep

[Clintdogg]

what did you chose for pct? at what doses?

[5111]

Originally Posted by Clintdogg

what did you chose for pct? at what doses?

I have Nolva and will probably use the 40/40/20/20 dosing.

I'm thinking that I am going to do a 6 week cycle jumpstarting the cycle with M1T for the first two weeks as I wait for the s1+ to kick in. I may finish the last two weeks of the cycle with M1T as well.

[Clintdogg]

cool...good luck